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Can you get to the seals and megatronic unit with the gearbox in place? Not sure I could lift gearbox out on my own.An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
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11th Feb 2019 5:33 pm
PROFSR G
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You won't lift it, however the transfer case can be split away and that's not exactly light either. Mechatronic unit is easily accessed and removed. I use the same method as Pete K for flushing / oil change with the addition of compressed air to clear lines and speed things up a bit.yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
11th Feb 2019 5:59 pm
D&G
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Can you get to the seals lifting the transfer box away?An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
11th Feb 2019 6:34 pm
Pete K
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D&G wrote:
Can you get to the seals and megatronic unit with the gearbox in place? Not sure I could lift gearbox out on my own.
Yes you can change the square seal and 4 tubes, but again, if your gearbox has major problems, you are probably wasting your money.
11th Feb 2019 6:50 pm
D&G
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Would I get fault codes for problems with the gearbox?
Otherwise I am going to struggle to diagnose what the issue is. TC, seals, magthingy or?
As you have probably guessed, this is a whole new world for me. Especially diagnosing the problem. So all help is most gratefully received.An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
11th Feb 2019 7:09 pm
Pete K
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you do get fault codes yes, if the dash displays TRANSMISSION FAULT LIMITED GEARS
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That is positive then, I have no fault codes so it looks to be the TC again.
ThanksAn honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
11th Feb 2019 8:04 pm
Fewst
Member Since: 05 Oct 2018
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M3DPO wrote:
Ultimately all you are buying is time and the only certain long term cure is replacement TC, new shaft bushes and seals..
It was asked further u but is this seriously a DIY job? I knew Dr Tranny is only a mask of the issue that ultimately means a new TC but thanks for the more in depth version. If i'm going to the lengths of a new TC and seals etc what else should I be inspecting on/in the gearbox? Or should i be looking for an entire replacement do you think?
Think my mind is now moved off the oil/ filter & pan change in favor of saving up! Where am i going to find the best supplier of the parts needed?
12th Feb 2019 12:53 am
Fewst
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M3DPO wrote:
No problem, look at the damaged seal on the bottom photo
Forgive my ignorance but i cant see the seal wear on this pic? Where exactly is it damaged?
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12th Feb 2019 1:58 am
PROFSR G
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gstuart wrote:
Hi M3 DPO
Many thks and most appreciated
Me being sad I found some piccies of that seal, famous last words of it being the right one , looks as though u can drop off the transfer case to gain access , saving having to remove the gearbox
Yep I need to get out more, just like to learn new things and know ur extremely knowledgeable
Thks so much , once again
It can be seen in the lower pic of these two!!yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
12th Feb 2019 2:12 am
M3DPO
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Simply changing the seal is not the cure of the fault, it is a symptom of wear on the shaft bush/bearing that causes side play of the shaft that causes the seal to fail, that causes the drop in oil pressure to the clutches and ultimately causes the clutch plates to wear due to slip and debri to contaminate the oil, it’s a domino knock on effect, you have got to stop the first domino falling over .It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
12th Feb 2019 9:46 am
gstuart
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Hi
wished to share the link in case it may be of use, showing the 6hp being taken apart
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M3DPO wrote:
Simply changing the seal is not the cure of the fault, it is a symptom of wear on the shaft bush/bearing that causes side play of the shaft that causes the seal to fail, that causes the drop in oil pressure to the clutches and ultimately causes the clutch plates to wear due to slip and debri to contaminate the oil, it’s a domino knock on effect, you have got to stop the first domino falling over .
Bu er An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
12th Feb 2019 4:12 pm
M3DPO
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My advice to anyone in this situation is to take it to a reputable specialist that is recommended by members on this site before anything is done, not all ZF franchised agencies are recommended put politely just like LR some do not come up to standard.It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
12th Feb 2019 4:42 pm
D&G
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Cheers M3DPO. Not so easy in France, so will have to be an expensive trip back to the UK.An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
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XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
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put politely just like LR some do not come up to standard.
