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LT
 


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Front diff. being replaced. Why?

My April 06 D3 is having it's front diff. replaced tomorrow under warranty.

The diff. first starting whining at speeds of 70+mph (legally of course Wink ) at about 57k miles. Its at the dealer now for this & its 60k mile service.

I know that this is a fairly common problem. Indeed front diffs. are I'm told currently on back order!

Why do they fail & have LR changed the design of new ones to stop the problem?
  
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My front diff leaks oil - around the seam of the housing. It is a V8 and I haven't been able to find a replacement.

I have it checked every 4000 miles when I have an oil change and the EPB serviced.

Does anyone know if the V8 has a different diff to the TdV6?
  
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I'd love to know the answer to this as well. My old one had a diff whine from 40,000 and I would be a whole lot happier if someone could confirm there has been a part change.

In my case, part of the problem could be attributed to a blocked breather on the diff causing it to blow oil, so it may be something as simple as a redesigned breather could solve it? Just a thought.
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The breather has been changed, the differential ratios are also different for manual & auto boxes but not for diesel / petrol versions. the main cause of failure is the input shaft seal due to harmonic vibration from the transfer box - the transfer box has been updated but the front & rear differentials stay the same
  
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I'm sure someone will enlighten us soon as to why they fail & what if anything LR have done to rectify the problem.

I did think that running MTR's for about 15k miles, most of which was my normal mix of 80% on the motorways, might have not have helped. But I thinking that I'm probably thinking out of my a**e.
  
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Cheers 10 Thumbs Up
 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.  
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Told you.

Many thanks TFC Thumbs Up

So really I should have a new transfer box as well or the problem could reoccur in c.60k miles!
  
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The front diff on my Feb 06 Auto was replaced under warranty after about 25,000 miles only Sad
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If the root cause is the harmonic vibration, then the front output shaft seal on the transfer box will eventually leak, if the cause is the front differential breather pipe, then the updated part will be fitted as part of the differential renewal process
  
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Thanks again TFC.
My dealer has a very helpful technical team, so I'll quiz them as to the cause tomorrow.
  
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Is this a whine when you lift off the accelerator ?
  
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Simon, the diff. whine is with the throttle open. Lift your foot off the accelerator & the whine stops.

Because of that, I did initially wonder if the noise was coming from the turbo.
  
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Just spoke to one of the very helpful & patient tech. staff at my dealer (T.H.White Thumbs Up ).

He said the cause was the interior coating of the diff. flaking off & contaminating the oil.

New diff. has different coating & breather pipe.
  
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Thanks LT.

I'm just looking for someone who can say why my whine happens when I lift off at 80. Whine present and diminishes all the way down to 70 then stops. No matter what gear, in neutral and whatever revs). Assume its transmission somewhere but I need to nail it down so my dealer can be more focused in their diagnosis (they won't drive that fast round Ludlow Wink )
  
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Well I took a technician out in my D3 with me driving. So that he could listen to the whine.
  
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