John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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First off big thanks to all the people that posted the instructions on here  Especially Stapldm, Wiggs and jdhx. I went for the same install as jdhx posted in the Wiki  However, I wanted to have the oval timer on the dash (so I could set the timer) as well as having the RF remote in a box in the engine bay. All works perfectly, but I couldn't get the solder to fix to the back of the timer (was working on the bench) so for the time being, until I have another stab at soldering the timer, I'm on timer only (though the RF box is all working and in place). I think perhaps I need to just scrape a little of the anti-solder backing off the back of the PCB...
Just thought I'd post some comments - they're possibly mentioned elsewhere, but if so, I missed them.
i. The 'Burn Now' button only works if the (P) light on the dash is out (rather than just the clock).
ii. If you try and fire the 'Burn Now' button before the car has gone to sleep (ie clock off, but (P) still on the dash), the fan in the heater will start, but it will not fire (this caught me out).
iii. If yours is struggling to start (sounding like a kettle before blowing out), then gently blow down the air intake to help it along - thanks BellAutos!
iv. Once it's fired up - let it run for a full 30 min burn. Mine was starting intermittently, but after a couple of long burns now works perfectly. I managed 4 long 30 minute burns, and it didn't seem to affect my battery for starting.
v. Opening only the drivers door kills the FBH if it's running from the timer. Opening any other door doesn't affect it. This is useful if you've fixed the remote to the dash and want to fire the burner, but don't want to leave the windows open (so you can lean in to press it once the car's asleep). Just open the passenger door and lean over.
vi. The reset procedure described in the oval timer manual clears lock-out faults if you don't have a Faultmate (Tintenter also posted about this ("...i can confirm that i got mine to work again buy pressing the instant butt on the timer and then removing the fuse next to the battery (29 i think) and repeating this 3 times after that it fired up...")
vii. For some reason mine won't start consistently when starting the vehicle sub-5degrees (it blows itself out), but it always starts when using the timer... one for further thought...
Hope that helps some people, as I say, perhaps posted elsewhere, but I'd missed 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
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disco_steve
Member Since: 25 Aug 2009
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Great write up
I've been umming and ahhhing about fitting the timer, but was put off when I heard that it will only 'fire' when the car is 'asleep'
It would be nice (IMHO) if you could jump in the car on a cold morning, or maybe your having a rest break when travelling, and fire up the FBH irrespective of the car being asleep, awake etc.
We have FBH's fitted to our vans at work, and you can fire those up at will, the 'fire now' button simply overides any car conditions and timer settings, and will run the unit for a max or 30 mins, although pressing the button again in under 30 mins will switch it off  Never get mad - get even !!
06 D3 now gone to family member and still going strong at 265k
previous vehicles:
04 D2 TD5 - (clocked 189k from new)
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| 22nd Nov 2010 10:30 am |
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anglefire
Member Since: 09 Mar 2010
Location: In the Club House
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John, scrap the varnish off the two solder pads before you tin and fix the wire with solder. Mark.
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| 22nd Nov 2010 2:26 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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Awesome - thanks! 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 22nd Nov 2010 2:28 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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I fitted a RF remote to mine a week or so ago - as anglefire says, you just need to scratch away the conformal coating from the back of the PCB and solder onto the test pads that you can see as per Dom's manual 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| 22nd Nov 2010 3:30 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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Thanks again 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 22nd Nov 2010 4:01 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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I didn't realise you could open the passenger door and it would work. I guess you have to have the door alreay unlocked and the car asleep as when you press the unlock button it stops the FBH without even opening a door.
Failed starting can be low battery power. Try letting the engine idle for a few seconds before you switch on electric seats, lights and rear window heater. I noticed this on mine and the FBH senses low power and will not complete the cycle. We had this on boats as well, so we started the engine, ran them before switching the heating on.
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| 22nd Nov 2010 4:06 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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countrywide wrote:I guess you have to have the door alreay unlocked and the car asleep
Correct 
countrywide wrote:Failed starting can be low battery power.
Thanks - will try that Faultmate mentions something about trying to start even after a restart with component fail (I paraphrase) - presume it would mention low batter if it failed on that - perhaps not...
Might trickly charge overnight and turn off lights etc to see if that makes a difference 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 22nd Nov 2010 4:10 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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This kind of makes sense now.....the other day I unlocked the D3 and opened the passenger door to leave my laptop on the seat. I then closed my door and pressed the FIRE button (albeit through the RF remote, but same thing)....and the FBH fired up perfectly and stayed working for 10 minutes whilst I was talking to someone...
As soon as I opened the drivers door it shut down...
I thought something strange had happened, but it ties in with what John is saying 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| 22nd Nov 2010 4:10 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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Yes - it's only the drivers door. I tend not to lock the car at night anyway, so it's handy to be able to load the boot etc whilst the cars still warming, but engine off 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 22nd Nov 2010 4:12 pm |
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brihawk
Member Since: 29 May 2009
Location: essex
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Firstly as John C said, big thanks to all who have made this Mod possible.
Secondly to John C for the pins.
I have now fitted the RF/timer and all is fine, but I should have looked closer as I have a red wire on my pin 2 the same as our RRS.
Just cut it and fitted timer.
So if any one needs the pins PM me and I will post them.
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| 10th Dec 2010 12:19 pm |
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bayesp
Member Since: 24 Mar 2010
Location: Cornwall, near England.
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I have been watching posts on this subject with intrest and it is something I really want to do. However, lack of free time, due to new baby and toddler means i can't do it myself.
Does anyone know of someone in the South Bucks area who would fit one for me?
Thanks
Paul
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| 10th Dec 2010 12:31 pm |
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JDB
Member Since: 25 Mar 2010
Location: NW Hampshire
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.. and another question - do I need the timer and the RF set up - if all I want it the remote facility (Rf not GSM)?
Thanks
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| 10th Dec 2010 1:31 pm |
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Iain G
Member Since: 31 Jan 2009
Location: Filey
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I got sick of my car starting up the FBH when the ambient air was below 5 degrees and the engine was already hot (half way on dial) - maybe I have a fault? So I cut the can-bus wires to the FBH and now I have complete control of the FBH with the timer. No faults or anything untoward has appeared on the dash. Does anyone else's car start the FBH up regardless of engine temp? It probably only runs a couple of minutes then goes off if up to temp.
Iain
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| 10th Dec 2010 2:18 pm |
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brihawk
Member Since: 29 May 2009
Location: essex
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Sorry JDB but you have to have the timer.
As I understand it, the RF remote switches the timer on and it is this that sends the bus signal to the FBH
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