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Heyloft
 


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Eco/Stop Start unavailable

I have Eco/Stop start light on, intermittantly. Displays 'unavailable' message when try to switch on

Took it to the stealers and they are adament it is the main battery. They had it on charge all day and say when tested it showed that the battery was faulty.

They would not even consider the Technical Bulletin LTB00958v2 - Stop/Start System Not Operating As Expected.

I declined their £471 charge for replacing the battery, I can get one of those myself for c£220.

Don't really want to shell out £220 if it really neaded the update as per the technical bulletin.


Any suggestions guys?
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Has the warranty finished ? , mines in next week for same , I have already had the battery on charge for a full day and Multi meter reads 12.3 which is not good .
Hoping to get the battery replaced free as car in still under 3 yrs old .
  
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Heyloft
 


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Mine was under extended warranty so wasn't covered.

I had a battery issue on my RR previously at 21/2 years and they didn't change that
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It might help to do a forum search.

This thread might be of interest:-

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/eco-stop-st...64122.html

Has the software update been done?

Does the secondary battery charge at the same time as the main battery, or must it be charged separately?

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Try here,
https://advancedbatterysupplies.co.uk/prod...echnology/
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/exide/ek950/
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NJSS wrote:
It might help to do a forum search.

This thread might be of interest:-

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/eco-stop-st...64122.html

Has the software update been done?

Does the secondary battery charge at the same time as the main battery, or must it be charged separately?

NJSS


Needs to be charged separately.
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Quote:
Needs to be charged separately.
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As I thought - so the dealers charging the main battery won't have done much good!

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1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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Heyloft
 


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No software update hasn't been done. They wouldn't entertain the idea after the battery came up with a fault.

I checked with the Stealers several times it was the main battery and they gave me the part number LR094642 which is the main battery
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Who is the dealer ? I'd like to avoid them Whistle
  
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Heyloft
 


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Interestingly, or very annoyingly Censored

MY main battery is testing 96% and 12.7V

The start stop battery is dead. Battery charger can't even detect it and it did on Sunday.
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My stop/start battery was the problem, was changed on warranty. Has worked ever since without any software update
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Heyloft
 


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you can get a stop/start battery for £89

but how to change it

not sure what the bit in the middle is for , or how to remove it


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NJSS
 


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More reading here:-

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/startstop-n...82-75.html

Does stop/start not working impact on the new MoT? I hope not.

NJSS
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1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
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Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
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Replaced my start stop battery recently. Went to 11.5v suddenly. Caused the stop/ start not available warning lamp.
Replaced and fine now. It's a simple swap out job. Normal battery safety procedures of course but no need to tell the car you've done it and no loss of settings. Mine cost under £50 posted , from eBay. Genuine LR battery is 3 X price. Exide one ( same but without LR sticker) is exactly the same.
The other topic provides more info. If you get stuck come back.
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Just checked your pic ( I'm on mobile so was difficult to see). All you need to do on the positive terminal is prise up that red terminal cover and undo the nut. No need to do anything with the black cover behind it.
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