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sdfuk
Member Since: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Maldon
Posts: 158
  
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Hi
My D3 (2009, 135k miles) is off to the garage next week to be sorted out. It has an intermittent ESF message, slight judder sometimes in the lower gears (more noticeable up hills), rev seeking and slight power loss at times. Wife used it at the weekend 70 mile round trip and no issues at all.
Searching the forums/internet suggests it could be the turbo/torque converter - so probably looking at £1k+
So, my question is at what point does it become economically unviable to keep a car given that the value is around 5.5k (private) and 4k (part exchange)?
Cheers
S
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 5th Apr 2021 1:18 pm |
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gareth71
Member Since: 10 Apr 2016
Location: North-east Wales
Posts: 547
 
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My D3 is a broadly similar age and mileage to yours ('09, with 124k on the clock). I've owned it for the last five years, and while I'm occasionally tempted to take the D4 plunge (normally when someone posts a really nice one for sale on here!), I see no reason why I shouldn't spend what needs to be spent to keep the D3 alive for a good while yet.
It's an absolute joy to drive, it's proved to be very reliable (so far!). It's never wanted for anything while I've owned it (and as far as I can see the previous owner treated it in a similar way), so I'm hoping there are no massive issues on the horizon. it's still "only" less than 12 years old so doesn't feel like an old vehicle yet, but it's not so "new" that I have a problem with dropping the seats down and throwing a load of old crap in the back when I need to, which I wouldn't feel so comfortable about doing in a shiny new(er) D4! It's not the greatest on fuel economy, but it's not too bad all things considered, and I'm lucky enough to have another car which is waaay less thirsty for times when I don't need the practicality of the D3.
Of course, your perspective may be different - but I love my D3 to bits, and even with the inevitable expenses which are going to rear their heads in the coming years I see no reason why I wouldn't want to hold on to it for quite some time yet. (Of course, I've now jinxed it really badly, the next 12 months will be full of mechanical and electrical nightmares at enormous cost, and this time next year I'll hate the damned thing  )
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| 5th Apr 2021 2:03 pm |
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lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
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Drtranny (20 quid) and some new gearbox oil (50 quid) will work wonders.
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| 5th Apr 2021 2:22 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23337
 
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Weigh up the cost of keeping it on the road versus the depreciation on a newer D4.
Of course there’s the hassle factor of getting repairs done, but it can’t lose too much more on depreciation now and if it still meets your needs there’s an argument for keeping it. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
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| 5th Apr 2021 2:47 pm |
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sdfuk
Member Since: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Maldon
Posts: 158
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thx
I was thinking that even if I do have to drop 1-2k, the car is in pretty good order apart from a dink on the driver door courtesy of a mountain biker hitting a hedge and then hitting my door - we had stopped by the way to let bikes through 
I heard D4s have had issues with electrics? not sure if it's been sorted out and the only new LR shape I like is the defender.
Will talk to my garage about an oil flush too.
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| 5th Apr 2021 6:06 pm |
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Scott #55
Member Since: 15 Apr 2015
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 1664
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You need to think about the financial outlay to replace the car. If you go for a D4, the newest you’ll get is about 5 years, so it will come with its own potential problems. You know the history of your own car. You should factor that in. 2014 - D4 2010 HSE Nara Bronze
2012 - FL2 2009 GS Stornoway Grey
2001 - VW Passat Estate Inky Blue
1999 - Ford Mondeo Light Blue
1998 - Rover 25 Red
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| 5th Apr 2021 9:46 pm |
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nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
Posts: 4142
 
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Shop around for prices on replacing the TC as it does vary quite a lot, but once done it’s like driving a new car... I did it on my D3... and now have a new D4  I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
Corris Grey D4 Commercial SE 2016
Zermatt Sliver 2007 D3 SE manual (gone)
Indus Silver D4 HSE 2015 (gone)
Bonatti Grey D3 HSE 2006 (gone)
White D3 S (LHD) 2007 (gone)
Firenze Red D4 HSE 2014 (gone)
Black RRS 3.6TDV8 2008 (gone)
Rusty Green Defender 110 1997 (gone)
Black FL2 HSE 2013 (gone)
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| 5th Apr 2021 9:51 pm |
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sdfuk
Member Since: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Maldon
Posts: 158
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Any particular TC's I should go for or avoid or is it just a case of you get what you pay for?
Cheers
S
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| 5th Apr 2021 10:10 pm |
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nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
Posts: 4142
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ISTR mine was about £650 and then fitting, my local indie is very good and did a few other jobs at the same time and it cost me around £1300... including vat... divide that over the age of the car and it’s not such a bad outlay... or that’s what I kept saying to myself 
Done at 124k and after a Mega flush had only made a small difference..
I’d already spent money on getting the car right (and getting the right car) so it’s really down to your individual circumstances... if you do it, it may increase the resale value (to those in the know) to nearly equal the cost of getting it done.. man maths I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
Corris Grey D4 Commercial SE 2016
Zermatt Sliver 2007 D3 SE manual (gone)
Indus Silver D4 HSE 2015 (gone)
Bonatti Grey D3 HSE 2006 (gone)
White D3 S (LHD) 2007 (gone)
Firenze Red D4 HSE 2014 (gone)
Black RRS 3.6TDV8 2008 (gone)
Rusty Green Defender 110 1997 (gone)
Black FL2 HSE 2013 (gone)
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| 5th Apr 2021 10:32 pm |
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KevinD3
Member Since: 05 Aug 2020
Location: Sutton Coldfield
Posts: 1205
 
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Agree with the sentiments above, sounds bad but a £1k repair bill on a D3 is something most of us budget for. It’s a 2009 so if it’s in good running order besides the fault, it’ll see you good for a long time if you plan to keep it, the cost of replacing will be more than the £1k and there will always be the risk that the replacement has a similar fault at some point.
Personally, I’ve done it and spent the cash because I love my D3, first car I’ve owned that I have no plan to replace, tbh, I’ve seen the worst case scenario of blown engines on here and still though that the pain would be sourcing a new engine, rather than what car I would buy after. (Don’t tell the wife) 2008 HSE Stornoway Grey
My Wife thinks the D3 is a hobby, The D3 thinks the wife is 💕
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| 5th Apr 2021 10:45 pm |
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