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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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I'm glad to hear that you managed to get the right car 
Nice and dry while we were there, though the slurry like mud in a couple of the "dumps" was wonderful stuff! 
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 10th Apr 2017 6:33 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Truth be told, I am disappointed with LRE for letting us down by not providing the D4, as promised. This was planned three months in advance, as a treat for the middle of our family holiday and while I can understand their wish to register as much of their factory output, as quickly as possible, this was just wrong.
While I have no beef with the people at Eastnor (who were great), I shall be taking this one up with the LRE people who organised the booking and made the promise.
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| 10th Apr 2017 8:43 pm |
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JackNorris
Member Since: 06 Jul 2012
Location: Beds/Bucks Border
Posts: 1879
 
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Ah the slurry was about for us too! Great fun
I agree, i think the withdrawal of the D4 from LRE centres was a little previous. Especially when you can still get pre reg d4 in dealers. I think it should of been bookable 6 months from the launch of the d5 MY2023 Discovery 5 R-Dynamic 3.0
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| 10th Apr 2017 8:47 pm |
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markate
Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: England
Posts: 704
 
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D4 is still available at some of the LRE Centres although not sure for how much longer.
East of England currently have 2 x D4 and 1 x D5 on their fleet.
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| 11th Apr 2017 11:20 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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It looked as if they might have even taken them off the fleet the day before! I did ask what was likely to become of the winch on the front of the most seriously equipped D4! 
It did make me wonder if they might need to take a mini digger out on the course to do a little widening in some places; my instructor did say that the D4 fitted really well, but the FFRR needed very careful placing around tree roots on the outside edges of some of the deeper ruts... 
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| 11th Apr 2017 1:16 pm |
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petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
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My D4 .... now my sons is only 1/2" a side wider than my D5 which is supposedly the same as a FFRR ... what's the mini digger for ? Peter
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| 12th Apr 2017 12:55 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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I thought I'd better check my facts here. There seem to be different opinions on the relative width of these cars but, what really matters in the ruts is the width of the track on the car and the width of the tyres on top of that.
The widest track on the D4 is at the rear, at 1612.5 mm. With 255 tyres, that makes the width at the total width at the rear wheels 1,612.5 mm + 255 mm for both of the tyres = 1,867.5 mm
The equivalent figure on thr FFRR is 1,690 mm + 275 mm = 1,965 mm
So the width between the outside edges of the sidewalls is 97.5 mm greater on the FFRR than it was on the D4, which pretty confirms what the instructor was suggesting. When the tyre ruts are deep and the outside edges have tough tree roots in them, the face of a 20" alloy wheel may not be the most cost effective tool to cut the tree roots back with 
PS: As a matter of curiousity, the equivalent figure for the D5 is 1,692mm track + 285 mm = 1,977 mm
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| 12th Apr 2017 5:46 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Red Merle wrote:Truth be told, I am disappointed with LRE for letting us down by not providing the D4, as promised. This was planned three months in advance, as a treat for the middle of our family holiday and while I can understand their wish to register as much of their factory output, as quickly as possible, this was just wrong.
While I have no beef with the people at Eastnor (who were great), I shall be taking this one up with the LRE people who organised the booking and made the promise.
I emailed LR about this on the bank holiday Monday, but no reply or acknowledgment yet...
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| 20th Apr 2017 12:28 pm |
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UffBrock
Member Since: 18 Mar 2011
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 157
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My voucher never materialised after my 8/16 D4 purchase and when (eventually) I chased, the earliest date I was offered was June. I expressly asked for, and was promised, a D4.
I'll check with Eastnor nearer the time but if no D4 is available I shall probably cancel. Shame, because this is my 4th (new) Discovery and this would have been my first off road experience.
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| 20th Apr 2017 1:32 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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You won't get a Disco 4 but, if this is your first time there, please don't cancel!
It's still a great experience and well worth the trip. Even if they initially do try and offer you a D5, please do not be put off; stand by your guns, as there are still some properly nice cars that can be borrowed as well
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| 20th Apr 2017 1:45 pm |
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RouseyD
Member Since: 27 May 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 36
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Whilst it might not be what you are after, I believe Eastnor is keeping Defenders on its fleet. At least I hope so as I've booked one for a half day in December!
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| 21st Apr 2017 4:11 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Red Merle wrote:Red Merle wrote:Truth be told, I am disappointed with LRE for letting us down by not providing the D4, as promised. This was planned three months in advance, as a treat for the middle of our family holiday and while I can understand their wish to register as much of their factory output, as quickly as possible, this was just wrong.
While I have no beef with the people at Eastnor (who were great), I shall be taking this one up with the LRE people who organised the booking and made the promise.
I emailed LR about this on the bank holiday Monday, but no reply or acknowledgment yet...
A reply arrived by email today. It was short and largely unhelpful.
It was one of those letters that, having failed to answer most of the points raised and having achieved nothing, closes with one of the most irritating platitudes of all time: "if I can be of any further help, please do not hesitate to contact me". If he hadn't said that, I would have let it go...
However, I took this his cliche at face value and "didn't hesitate" to contact him again! 
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| 21st Apr 2017 5:01 pm |
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markate
Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: England
Posts: 704
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While Eastnor may have removed the D4 from their fleet they are still on the fleets at some of the other LRE Centres.
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| 21st Apr 2017 5:11 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Unfortunately it would seem that even if they are at the centres, they may be decommissioned and even if you book one, it's no guarantee that they'll have one by the time that you arrive.
One bit of good news, at least I found this out before paying to do the full day's course
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| 21st Apr 2017 5:49 pm |
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markate
Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: England
Posts: 704
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I was at LRE East of England today and both their D4's were being used and are still bookable.
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| 21st Apr 2017 6:08 pm |
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