Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 1359
Don't make my mistake!
If you're thinking of getting rid of your D4, make sure that you're doing the right thing.
We had a beautiful 2016 Landmark that we'd owned for six years, and apart from having to have a new prop shaft (split centre bearing) at the back end of last year, it had been pretty much faultless. However, it was time to move on, or so I thought.
I went on the Range Rover Sport (L494) launch in 2012/13 and always liked the look of the things, so ended up with a 2021 D300 HSE Dynamic with a few extras. What a mistake! Yes, it goes well, has much more up to date technology and will return a genuine 40 MPG, but it's no where near as practical as the D4 (we don't need 7 seats, but all the little cubbies and the seats folding totally flat in the D4 made it so much better) and is soooooo boring with a horrible ride to boot!
Sadly, without taking a big hit (which I can't really afford) it looks like we're stuck with it. It's my fault, and mine alone, but an expensive mistake. Unfortunately, my D4 went onto a forecourt and was snapped up in a couple of days (it really was in great shape and had only covered 57,000 miles - no short journeys!). Ah well..........
Someone recently asked if the D4 was the pinnacle of LR. Without a doubt in my mind.
I suppose that I'm preaching to the converted, but..........
23rd Aug 2024 3:01 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14478
I feel your pain. I have a Defender but miss the D4. I keep looking at them. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
23rd Aug 2024 8:35 pm
A.J.M
Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
Location: Carluke
Posts: 2855
As a recent buyer of a 2016 landmark.
It’s definitely a very practical car, I can stick my son’s pram in the boot without worrying if it will fit.
It does fit in the freeby 2 but you have to turn it side on…
My old and much loved D3 did have a few extra cubby slots over the D4.
But the 3.0 and 8 speed is a much nicer drive.In loving memory of FA54WSK.
Rest well old friend, your work is done.
23rd Aug 2024 8:54 pm
G3Z
Member Since: 16 Dec 2018
Location: South Wales
Posts: 567
The only thing that keeps me away from Discovery’s now is the V6.
If LR fitted the V8 diesel from factory, they’d be fetching Toyota Land Cruiser money.Defender 110 2.4 TDCi Utility Station Wagon.
2007 Disco 3 GS TDV6 Manual
200,000+ mile club 😎
23rd Aug 2024 9:52 pm
nigel207
Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 1359
Prior to owning the 2016 car, we had a MY2010 HSE for six years, and a 2005 D3 SE before that. The D3 was the most problematic, but in the main things sticking rather than breaking.
One of the reasons that we went with the D300 was because of the question mark over the V6, BUT neither the 2.7 or the 3.0's gave any engine trouble, so it was probably more in my mind than reality. As for a Toyota Landcruiser, yes, they may have a perceived reliability (don't mention the name to an old friend of mine who bought one new and the engine let go at about 50,000 miles - and it was fastidiously maintained), but having done some dynamic testing with them (and lots of other cars) when towing, they are about as poor as it gets, and certainly not the safest thing when towing. Hopefully, the new version will be better and much more refined?
24th Aug 2024 9:28 am
nigel207
Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 1359
Moo wrote:
I feel your pain. I have a Defender but miss the D4. I keep looking at them.
Me too. They certainly have an understated presence and just look right anywhere.
24th Aug 2024 9:29 am
KenR
Member Since: 17 Jan 2010
Location: Argyll Scotland
Posts: 331
I did exactly the same, went from having had six Disco’s to a RRS because l always liked the look of them. BIG MISTAKE for all the same reasons. It’s a nice car but l just cannot klick with it. Biggest problem is that the boss never liked them and only very reluctantly agreed to the change - she never lets me forget it!
24th Aug 2024 2:53 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73121
Still miss my D3, though not the warp-drive spending it needed. Don’t miss my D4 even though it was a much better car and just needed “standard” maintenance. D3 was like a well worn pair of loafers, D4 a new set of brogues.
Not that I’m tempted back after 6 years, waaaaaaaaaaay too used to stress free motoring!
24th Aug 2024 3:54 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6766
Wasn’t denial the first sign of regret… or was it acceptance?
24th Aug 2024 4:07 pm
DN D3 Decade
Member Since: 23 Jun 2006
Location: W.London.
Posts: 2346
That was my thinking, but there comes a point …I have owned and maintained my D3 for nearly 19 years 😳 By far, the longest I have ever owned any vehicle. But now, its value is quite low, and I will be reluctant to spend money on it if anything crops up soon. It still is a great all round vehicle, and just done a trip up to N.Yorks and back in it, it never missed a beat, and needs nothing doing to it at present. Definitely not ready to be a ‘scrapper’ but I have just arranged through the TFL scrappage scheme, which is about to end soon, to donate it to the Ukraine war effort. So it will be going next month, hopefully to save some lives. The end of an era, it will be a sad day indeed. D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.
24th Aug 2024 9:43 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14478
That’s lovely, sad and good all in a post.
At least you’ve had 19 years of good times with it and that it will make a difference in Ukraine. Fair playti you. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
24th Aug 2024 11:22 pm
DN D3 Decade
Member Since: 23 Jun 2006
Location: W.London.
Posts: 2346
Thanks Moo, I think it’s definitely the right thing to do, I’ve had my time with it now, it has been a good vehicle over the years. D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.
Member Since: 20 Dec 2023
Location: Manotick, On
Posts: 262
I did drive the new Defender, quite harshly at “The Land Rover Experience”. Was quite impressed until the instructor said “there is nothing we did, that your Disco4 can’t do.”. Couple that with the motorway and city ride, I’m sticking with it as long as I can.
Thank you all for the confirmations.
Cheers2015 LR4 HSE Lux Aintree Green
2013 LR2 HSE Radiance Red
2007 XKR Jaguar Racing Green
2005 XJR Jaguar Racing Green
2002 S-Type R British Racing Green
25th Aug 2024 11:25 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73121
kajtzu wrote:
Wasn’t denial the first sign of regret… or was it acceptance?
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