Member Since: 03 Jun 2014
Location: Prudhoe
Posts: 846
Disgusting VED
I have just received the renewal for the road tax for my D3. £580 for the year in one payment.
It is about time this tax was includes in the cost of fuel then the more you drive the more you pay.
Thoughts.
6th May 2020 9:09 am
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
Location: Surrey / SW London
Posts: 2136
surely the VED was a similar price when you purchased the car?
I do agree, its a lot of money for an old vehicle.
Current: D4 HSE
Previous: BMW Z4M Coupe
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6th May 2020 9:10 am
G7jtk
Member Since: 03 Jun 2014
Location: Prudhoe
Posts: 846
It has gone up a lot in the four years that have had the car but that’s not my point.
It is not a fair system, as the existing tax elements on fuel more than cover taxation. Using only the tax on fuel means the more you use a vehicle the more you pay. The VED should be a admin fee to register your car for use on the roads and should be set at the same level for all vehicles. £25-50 would be more than enough annually.
Regards,
Steve
6th May 2020 9:19 am
G7jtk
Member Since: 03 Jun 2014
Location: Prudhoe
Posts: 846
The same price for all vehicles
6th May 2020 9:26 am
DaveJLBI
Member Since: 07 Mar 2014
Location: Clare
Posts: 661
€1200 for the year over here
6th May 2020 9:35 am
adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Home and Happy
Posts: 6917
One of the reasons I got rid - you pay your money, you take your choice.Now Golf GTI PP, 7 speed DSG.
Ex D3 and D4
6th May 2020 9:54 am
motorworks
Member Since: 14 Nov 2019
Location: Usk
Posts: 401
I think you are missing the point with VED rates.
The idea is to reduce specific, and collective, vehicle emissions. Unfortunately, heavy old cars are bad for air quality. Deletion of EGR and DPF make this even worse, probably illegal but no enforcement.
If you look at VED charges for newer vehicles, similar size and spec, the rates come down considerably.Chris
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6th May 2020 9:54 am
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8102
and you have people who pay zilch VED complaining about pot holes if every car owner paid the cost of filling one pot hole up there would not be any.
Chap I know does 80,000 miles per year and pays zero VED and others have a Disco sat in the garage doing next to nothing and are being charged £580 It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
6th May 2020 9:54 am
Scott #55
Member Since: 15 Apr 2015
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 1665
80,000 miles? That's 330 a day, assuming a 5-day week and 4 weeks' holiday, equating to about 7 hours's driving at decent speeds.
Sorry to be pedantic, but it's lockdown and I'm bored.2014 - D4 2010 HSE Nara Bronze
2012 - FL2 2009 GS Stornoway Grey
2001 - VW Passat Estate Inky Blue
1999 - Ford Mondeo Light Blue
1998 - Rover 25 Red
6th May 2020 10:06 am
James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Wirral, UK
Posts: 3067
2 to 3 k miles a year here, I feel your pain. Got a 10 year service next week, pay for a warranty, £480 insurance
I must be mental D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
2018 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography - Gone to someone with less sense and more time to enjoy it
2016 Toyota Hilux Invincible - Liberating experience
6th May 2020 10:12 am
Oswiperus D3 Decade
Member Since: 02 Apr 2010
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
Posts: 1590
Two Disco's here and only do about 7-8K between them. Fortunately for me D3 is earlier lower tax model and D4 is a commercial with cheaper tax. Plus I've taken on my late fathers D2 as I couldn't bring myself to sell it but that is currently sorn.Stu
2016 D4 Landmark current
2022 Defender D300 SE Gone
D4 2014 XS Commercial - Gone
D4 2016 hse lux montalcino red - Gone
D3 2005 se java black - current
D3 2005 base manual - gone
D2 1999 TD5 E white - current
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6th May 2020 10:19 am
Sea Raider
Member Since: 01 Nov 2016
Location: None
Posts: 4450
What gets me is the D3 cut off in early 2006.
Example - 2 Discoveries roll off the production line one after the other.
Both delivered to the same Dealer on the same day, the later one is bought and registered before the cut off and has the cheaper tax. The earlier one is left lying in the Dealers compound for 4 weeks before its bought and registered but as its after the cut off, it now has the higher tax.
2p added per litre would cover £580 if you do 15000 miles a year and get 22.5mpg... if I've got the maths right.
Would ease the pain..
Dean
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2011 D4 XS - OBD port protection, RLD spare wheel protector, All LED interiors lights, Timed Climate enabled, iiD tool paired.
2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
2011 D4 GS - Stolen whilst at dealer ... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
1996 300Tdi - Eaten by tin worms
6th May 2020 10:37 am
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2862
Scott #55 wrote:
80,000 miles? That's 330 a day, assuming a 5-day week and 4 weeks' holiday, equating to about 7 hours's driving at decent speeds.
Sorry to be pedantic, but it's lockdown and I'm bored.
Perfectly viable - I used to do around 70,000 per year (in an old Passat estate with the 5-cylinder Audi engine) for three years - a 70 mile commute each way to/from the office where I had to clock on, then a further 100+ each day visiting sites. Significantly bumped up by a monthly trip from Stirling down to Plymouth and another trip down to Liverpool each month.
Currently do about 35k pa in my D3 and SWMBO does a further 20-25k in her D4 (at least we did before lockdown)Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
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if every car owner paid the cost of filling one pot hole up there would not be any.
