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Globetrotter448
 


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My understanding is that if you disconnect one end of the bus (pull the connector) you will see the other end, namely 120 ohms. With the connector pulled a check on the connector pins will prove the rest of the bus is ok
  
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Globetrotter448
 


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Funny enough , the breakout box just turned up this morning , am now researching to understand what some of the terminals mean

Tac
Wspe
Sdm
Ts
Tc
Vpw plus and neg
Sil

GS, my understanding of the OBDII connector is that pins 1,3,8,9,11,12,13 are all manufacturer specific so the markings on your new box may be for a specific brand of vehicle unless they have changed the specification of the OBDII
Pins 2 & 10 relate to the J1850 bus which is for coaches and heavy vehicles
  
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gstuart
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Globetrotter448 wrote:
My understanding is that if you disconnect one end of the bus (pull the connector) you will see the other end, namely 120 ohms. With the connector pulled a check on the connector pins will prove the rest of the bus is ok


Hi

Indeed that’s what I’m also thinking as it does make sense

Also and know it would take time, battery disconnected and then doing a continuity test from box to box , via the same wire going box to box

As there was a low VDC on pin 14 on low side of the high speed canbus I would assume it would be a bab found as I know u also mentioned it earlier

That why I thought using a jump lead from battery neg to engine block , also testing the ground before hand with multimeter

Spent around 4-5 hours the other night studying some of the wiring diagrams so have plenty of other tests, lol
   
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Globetrotter448 wrote:
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Funny enough , the breakout box just turned up this morning , am now researching to understand what some of the terminals mean

Tac
Wspe
Sdm
Ts
Tc
Vpw plus and neg
Sil

GS, my understanding of the OBDII connector is that pins 1,3,8,9,11,12,13 are all manufacturer specific so the markings on your new box may be for a specific brand of vehicle unless they have changed the specification of the OBDII
Pins 2 & 10 relate to the J1850 bus which is for coaches and heavy vehicles


Many thks Thumbs Up Bow down

Gary
   
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Globetrotter448
 


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Gary, your email is not working
  
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Briscoe05
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

I will try and check the wires again for the abs, the owner has sent the clocks off to cluster repair uk for bench testing and repair. So if I unplug the abs and then check the wires as discussed should I get 120ohms?
  
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Globetrotter448
 


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No, the other end of the bus is in the IC. If you disconnect the abs plug and then check the abs only you should see 120 ohms. Without either end plugged in, I am not totally sure what resistance you will get but it would be in relation to the length of cable. Should also check that you have volts and earth at the abs.
Why did they send the IC away?
  
Post #215059531st May 2020 11:49 pm
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Metsonline
 


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Hi,did you get any further with this subject ?
  
Post #215304211th Jun 2020 12:43 pm
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Briscoe05
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

Clocks finally back and in. There was a fault but i still have the same issues. Losing the plot here. Where are the plugs In the front passenger wheel arch as I cant seem to find any?? Also is there a plug or loom over the nsr turret?
Regs,
Nick
  
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PROFSR G
 


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Its behind the wheel arch liner, on MY 07> its behind the nsf headlamp. There's lots written on the subject if you do a search. The rear block terminals are behind the nsr turret on the chassis rail.
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Briscoe05
 


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Solved! I decided to start untaping the rear loom from the plugs behind the plastic fold down box and 10" back in the loom was a corroded yellow/black canbus wire. A cut, strip and crude twist together for testing purposes and it starts. Happy 8) not a mile away from rangehelper post. Thanks alot for that.
  
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PROFSR G
 


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Well done. Thumbs Up
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Briscoe05
 


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Battery light is now on lol, battery voltage 11.7v engine off. Goes to 13.1v engine running. Rolling Eyes
  
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Globetrotter448
 


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Well done on the can buss, any pictures. Battery and charging look a bit 'suss' as a good battery will show 12+ volts and with engine running 14+ volts so you may need to check both battery and alternator.
  
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Briscoe05
 


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I meant 12.5v for battery and 13 ish engine running. But light on. Should I just go for alternator?
  
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