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Dipped beam, dangerous over 25 mph !!!
Hi Guys, raised this issue a week or two ago and I appear at present to be the only one with this problem. dipped beam range on my 2014 d4 was between 12 and 18 yrds maximum! The range of the light appears to get less on occasions as you approach and or brake approaching a junction/roundabout etc. Not funny in the dark with no street lights on bends etc. Impossible to see/avoid pedestrians etc. if they step out while travelling faster than 20 to 25 mph. Dealer fitted new lights and range although improved slightly is still hugely less than my 04 Freelander. I am told the blue haze at the perimeter of the beam when dipped is typicall of this years model Do any of you guys have the blue haze along with a dangerously low dipped beam that makes bends and junctions magically disappear from view when dipping from main beam?
Had an 06, 09, and 12 models before no issues, this one is scarey in the dark
2nd Jul 2014 10:53 pm
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I appear at present to be the only one with this problem.
Without wishing to be controversial but as you have had the headlamps changed already and there is little improvement ..... have you had your eyes checked? 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
2nd Jul 2014 11:01 pm
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Blue tinge at the cutoff is typical of HID's in general. Sounds like they are just set way too low to me.2012 D4 HSE for her
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2nd Jul 2014 11:23 pm
corris
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Believe it or not I did have an eye test last week, coincidently . I know what the lights have been like on my previous models and having done over 200,000 miles in Discovery in past few years (not all in the dark) I am pretty comfortable with what they should be....this one is a concern, back to dealer we go.
2nd Jul 2014 11:32 pm
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It will fail an MOT with lights set that low, get your Philips screwdriver out and raise them It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
3rd Jul 2014 7:42 am
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3rd Jul 2014 7:47 am
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Why not take it to an independant MOT station, and see if they will check the beams on there guage?
3rd Jul 2014 7:56 am
corris
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Thanks for replies, dealer did the test when car stationery, lights pass, car moves lights reduce range! They have even taken a video at 11pm in evening whilst driving car to send back to Landrover who cannot understand why suspension and lights are not working in tandem. A data file has also been downloaded and 'landrover technical' dept. continue to delve into the issue.
3rd Jul 2014 8:25 am
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I've seen this on a D3 loan car a few years ago and it was an air suspension issue and nothing to do with the lights.
When driving it the rear end tended to raise in relation to the front. It would stay like this until finally parked where it would make an unusually large 'fart' before dropping the back end quite a way to a level position. A tape measure from hub centre to top arch confirmed that it was the rear that was over extended.
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Sounds like a suspension issues to me, look on the bright side ( no pun intended) if its dropping down in the front it might make it more aerodynamic and give better MPG.Dale
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But if it is raising the back end it will make it unstable and dangerous, you need someone in another car to travel at the side of you on a motorway with a camera It can when others can't,
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It goes where others don't.
3rd Jul 2014 9:18 am
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I'm not sure you would notice it from another vehicle. Taking a drive with a diagnostic tool recording the heights would be a good start.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Or are the bulbs not fitted correctly??? This used to happen regularly on Passats when the bulb had not gone correctly into its holder in the projectors.
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3rd Jul 2014 1:18 pm
corris
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Sorted, I probably now have the best lights on a D4! I think after a week or so of 'changes' , suspension not quite set and after three sets of headlights and some small adjustments to recommended settings on light 'spread and distance' I have gone from 15 yrd visibility to 40m+ and side view massively improved....I am happy now.
7th Jul 2014 12:51 pm
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I have the standard lights on my MY12 XS and they are useless. I should have gone for the Xenon
I tried fitting better bulbs but they just kept blowing - back to the Halogens now.Duncan
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The range of the light appears to get less on occasions as you approach and or brake approaching a junction/roundabout etc. Not funny in the dark with no street lights on bends etc. Impossible to see/avoid pedestrians etc. if they step out while travelling faster than 20 to 25 mph. Dealer fitted new lights and range although improved slightly is still hugely less than my 04 Freelander. I am told the blue haze at the perimeter of the beam when dipped is typicall of this years model 
Do any of you guys have the blue haze along with a dangerously low dipped beam that makes bends and junctions magically disappear from view when dipping from main beam?
. I know what the lights have been like on my previous models and having done over 200,000 miles in Discovery in past few years (not all in the dark) I am pretty comfortable with what they should be....this one is a concern, back to dealer we go. 
