Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
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Yes, there is a winter diesel spec in the UK. But I am sure there is also a similar winter spec in Germany too.
10th Jan 2007 7:54 pm
espri
Member Since: 07 Nov 2005
Location: Tyrol, Austria
Posts: 387
Thanks!
Would you expect winter diesel to give inferior consumption such as I have experienced recently?
Eric
10th Jan 2007 8:44 pm
ferrett
Member Since: 15 Jan 2006
Location: West
Posts: 298
Here in Jersey we have a price war on fuel. Diesel ranges from 75p/litre to 90p/litre depending where you fill up. However, because our fuel is delivered by ship there are only two suppliers, Shell and Esso, all other retailers buy the fuel from these two.
If I fill my D3 with Esso I get about 390 - 410 miles from a tank, if I use Shell then the distance per tank rises to around 480 miles from a tank.
The garage that is pushing the prices down supplies Esso at 75p/litre but my nearest garage supplies Shell but at nearly 10p/litre more. I seem to get sharper performance from the Shell.
Is this all down to the additives?2012 D4 - SDV6 XS - Firenze Red
10th Jan 2007 8:53 pm
Winger Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
espri wrote:
Thanks!
Would you expect winter diesel to give inferior consumption such as I have experienced recently?
Eric
Eric, yes - slightly reduced performance/consumtion. Remember also that the FFH will result in increased consumption (though this is pretty minor).
10th Jan 2007 9:54 pm
nickgriff
Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Switzerland/France
Posts: 58
espri wrote:
Talking about diesel quality, I had a question - maybe Nickgriff knows the answer.
Since I bought the D3 last March, the fuel usage shown on the display stayed steady at 9.6 litres/100 km. Then, suddenly, while I was over in the UK at teh beginning of December, it went up to 10.1 litres/100 km and has stayed there since (apart from my holiday, I haven't changed my driving pattern). What I wondered was, is there anything like "winter diesel", which might explain the difference? Or must I look elsewhere for an explanation?
Eric
Strange you should say that!!!!! Whilst driving from France (near Geneva) back to the UK I averaged 9.6/100km (French Fuel). However on my return home (france) I noticed a higher consumption..........So to conclude, UK driver pay more for fuel and get less valuse for their money.....another reason not to move back!!!! As for a scientific reason, I have no idea. My job is trading oil tankers. Now they consume fuel!! On Average 80-100 metric tons a day!! Now where is my BP nectar card!
11th Jan 2007 10:41 am
espri
Member Since: 07 Nov 2005
Location: Tyrol, Austria
Posts: 387
Thanks, everyone, for the information. I will live in hope that my fuel consumption will improve again once spring has sprung.
Eric
11th Jan 2007 8:52 pm
Guy2272
Member Since: 05 Oct 2006
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 17
Wonder if todays news re supermarket fuel(petrol) alters the thoughts about diesel quality !!!!
28th Feb 2007 9:50 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
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I had a bad fuel experience with my TD5 90 on a long run from NW Scotland to Newport few years ago. Before filling up W of Stirling it was running fine. After that fill up (from nearly empty), It was really sluggish, drinking the stuff and wouldn't do more than 70 mph. Got to J20 of the M6 nearly dry & filled up with Total & the car was transformed back to its usual self.
90% of the fuel I've bought for the last umpteen years has been supermarket fuel (mostly Tesco) and never had a fuel related problem in any car I've run. The fuel that gave me the problems above was a Shell station (Calander ISTR) so in my eyes potentially dodgy fuel can come from the big boys as well.
1st Mar 2007 9:47 am
Winger Site Moderator
Member Since: 15 Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3428
Guy2272 wrote:
Wonder if todays news re supermarket fuel(petrol) alters the thoughts about diesel quality !!!!
Nope; gasoil and gasoline are very different beasts.
The recent problems are very likely the result of adding a diesel additive to petrol: this is not a recipe for success.
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