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Pete K
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Rimini RedDiscovery 3

well it proves the crank and cam move
  
Post #218300428th Oct 2020 12:15 pm
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Scwede
 


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Scotland 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

Mr Kington wrote:
Open the oil filler and see if the crank moves when turning over.


Nothing is moving in there when cranking Sad
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2008 Discovery 3 HSE, Java Black
2010 Discovery 4 HSE, Stornoway Grey
2005 Discovery 3 HSE, Buckingham Blue
1987 Defender 90, some sort of grey
1983 Series 3 SWB, Ex Coastguard, Trafalgar Blue 
 
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Mr Kington
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Siberian SilverDiscovery 3

Ok then I am afraid that is very bad news. Mine was the same and essentially ( I am no mechanic) but it means the belt is no longer attached. Which will mean a new engine or if you are very lucky a re-build. Happy to be told otherwise but I believe this is the case.
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PROFSR G
 


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Ukraine 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

If you can't see the cam move as others have already said, either the chain is snapped or the timing belt/oil pump/tensioner has failed. You'll be here til Christmas 21 guessing at it! Get in there and pull off the timing belt cover to confirm the problem.
It's not that big a job with a decent socket set and general tools, Remove the upper fan cowl, plenum chamber, fan electrics, fan, aux belt, aux belt idler, water pump pulley, crankshaft damper, metal coolant pipes, Top rad hose at the "vee connector", release EGR pipe and clamps and coolant pipes, remove the bolts holding the timing cover, (there's quite a few of them)

It might sound like a lot of work but you should be able to get through that in an hour or a maybe two if inexperienced with a decent tool set. The only challenge for you might be the fan clutch. You can remove this with a large adjustable wrench before you release the tension on the aux belt. Once it's fitted to the fan clutch shock it with a sharp blow in a clockwise direction as it's left hand thread and spin it off.

If the timing belt and tensioner is OK you'll have a snapped chain in the head.
 yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ

 
 
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Scwede
 


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Scotland 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

Many thanks,

That's the next step - I agree guessing which catastrophe is the correct one is fruitless.

Saturday beckons...

Cheers
 2012 Discovery 4 HSE Sumatra Black
2008 Discovery 3 HSE, Java Black
2010 Discovery 4 HSE, Stornoway Grey
2005 Discovery 3 HSE, Buckingham Blue
1987 Defender 90, some sort of grey
1983 Series 3 SWB, Ex Coastguard, Trafalgar Blue 
 
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Scwede
 


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Scotland 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

It's the oil pump.

Full LR service history and looks like it hasn't been changed to the new type.

Now some thinking to do...




 2012 Discovery 4 HSE Sumatra Black
2008 Discovery 3 HSE, Java Black
2010 Discovery 4 HSE, Stornoway Grey
2005 Discovery 3 HSE, Buckingham Blue
1987 Defender 90, some sort of grey
1983 Series 3 SWB, Ex Coastguard, Trafalgar Blue 
 
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PROFSR G
 


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Ukraine 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

Well that's dreadful news for you but unfortunately you're not the first and won' be the last. Perhaps the easiest route now might be to find a Jag S type donor engine and swap over the EU4 ancillaries.
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Motolab
 


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Netherlands 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

well with 264,000 km on it's Clock, not really bad...
 Best regards
Harold

Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year

Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc. Wink 
 
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PROFSR G
 


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Ukraine 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

It would be Harold if you bought it with 263,000 Kms Laughing
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Scwede
 


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Scotland 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

I did!

Doubt if I've done 1000 km yet.

Sad
 2012 Discovery 4 HSE Sumatra Black
2008 Discovery 3 HSE, Java Black
2010 Discovery 4 HSE, Stornoway Grey
2005 Discovery 3 HSE, Buckingham Blue
1987 Defender 90, some sort of grey
1983 Series 3 SWB, Ex Coastguard, Trafalgar Blue 
 
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PROFSR G
 


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Ukraine 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

Embarassed Big Cry
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Motolab
 


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Netherlands 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

I feel really sorry for you.... really

But there is a big BUT...

And again, i know what you may feel, as mine with “only” 158000km when i bought it, it spun a bearing within 100km after purchase, really..

The BUT thing... hi mileage motors have a big risk, anyway.... you could have known... not bad meant...
I see it this way: i knew what a potential risk is bought... since the info is everywere.... spun bearings, broken oilpumps etc. Are in the top 3..... so i bought it rather cheap, low mileage and had reserved a bag of money..... i see it this way, i have a low mileage motor, with a “as new” engine, for a total amount i had to spent anyway at a dealer or good indy, but then i had never had such a “as new” engine...


Since it happens on your engine a low RPM, i read, you can take your chance... new oilpump, new spanner and belt, en try......

Compression is easyest to check, with belts mounted.....

If not ok..... buy a (low mileage) JAG engine, use your new pump and belt on that JAG engine....
Approx 4,5K or 5K will bring it back to life, with a fresh engine....

I did it for that amount, incl body off job, with new bigends,mains, new aircon pump, new dynamo, etc. Etc...
 Best regards
Harold

Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year

Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc. Wink 
 
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Scwede
 


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Scotland 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Sumatra BlackDiscovery 4

Thanks Harold,

In fact... I bought this car a few months ago as a future replacement for my leased Volvo, which ends at the beginning of next year hence why I haven't used it much. I had it on the road to keep it alive and fix anything small which may crop up.

So far only the AC condenser needed done which wasn't a difficult job.

I'm aware of the oil pump issue and planned to change the belts and pump before I put it into normal service. But wasn't too worried as I looked hard for a good one and this came with a pile of receipts as long as our arm and 000s spent on it included all new suspension arms, compressor etc. The previous owner didn't do DIY, he just sent it to Land Rover and paid the money.

It has a full LR service history and the belts were done in 2016 so I made the terrible assumption that the pump would have been changed by now.

Tough luck!

Jag engines are not so easy to find here and nothing is cheap, but buying from the UK is ok.

I'm checking a few options including trying to find a local independent here who might have a go. There are very few LR specialists in Sweden.

Lastly I sold my D4 a few years ago as the crank issue was niggling me, and I've seen at least 6 for ale here over the years with new engines or being sold as broken. Doesn't seem so rare. So I bought a D3 thinking it was a safer bet Smile

Thanks again for the input - and sympathy!
 2012 Discovery 4 HSE Sumatra Black
2008 Discovery 3 HSE, Java Black
2010 Discovery 4 HSE, Stornoway Grey
2005 Discovery 3 HSE, Buckingham Blue
1987 Defender 90, some sort of grey
1983 Series 3 SWB, Ex Coastguard, Trafalgar Blue 
 
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darrind
 


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England 2013 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

You may find the damage is fairly limited as there are lots that have swapped heads and lived on
 Must stop buying shiny toys....  
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Parky63
 


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England 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

Scwede,
This might help:

https://disco3.co.uk/forum/sale-jaguar-typ...07b96446a2

David
 2006 D3 HSE Buckingham Blue
Silicone Intercooler Pipe
MAP Sensor cleaned
N/S Drain Tube Elbow 
 
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