alltnaha
Member Since: 21 Feb 2007
Location: London
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I guess more than a few on here have pondered this question so I'd be grateful for your views.
My D4 has done just 78,000 miles and is exactly 11 years old on Friday. I've had it since new and carefully looked after it - everything that needs doing is done, FSH by main dealers or LR specialists. I've never had a car this long - my D3 was 7 or 8 years old when I sold it - still going strong I see from the MoT history.
I've just had it serviced and MoT'd - first time pass with no advisories as for the past few years.
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Known. Reliable - to date - only once not got to where I was going. Nothing really can replace it for motorway cruising and off road ability. What was v high depreciation has levelled out, although I guess I wouldn't get much more than £12-13K for it. Comfortable, fast and that grin factor.
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Maintenance and running costs. Worry of a very large bill/breakdown at some time in the future. Reliability - which concerns me more than anything else. I don't need the load carrying (kids grown up) or off road ability (EE upgraded at some expense the track to my cottage) as I used to. ULEZ expansion.
I'd appreciate your views. Thanks.
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 27th Feb 2023 4:18 pm |
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s60r
Member Since: 14 Mar 2021
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 287
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All valid comments but the key is - what would replace it?
Only when a suitable replacement is in mind can a comparison/ comment be made either way.....
But yes... I shared in your concerns about something big going (turbos/crank shaft).... and it was part reason I sold mine. A mod a week until I have nothing to improve or add.
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| 27th Feb 2023 5:45 pm |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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sharing same concerns as you i decided to stay as replacement even to ugly D5 is too economically unpractical
with pain of paying for Warranty Direct I have saved at least 4 plus K in last two years on jobs
besides I am emotinally attached to ours 
good luck with decisins
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| 27th Feb 2023 6:33 pm |
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alltnaha
Member Since: 21 Feb 2007
Location: London
Posts: 250
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Thanks both, nothing can replace it like for like but my needs have changed so I'll keep pondering...
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| 1st Mar 2023 7:49 pm |
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Dave T
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 6910
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I went to RRS, same perceived problems of reliability and insurance costs increasingly becoming an issue but what else is there? Joined the BMWX5 45e group
1994 Defender 90
2015 RRS Corris Grey/Black roof
2016 D4 Graphite Santorini Black
2012 D4 XS Orkney Grey
2005 D3 S Maya Gold
Convoy for Heroes 2011
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| 2nd Mar 2023 12:23 pm |
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NC500
Member Since: 18 Sep 2017
Location: On the NC500
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I have a 9 year old d4 with 136k that is well serviced and maintained. You are many miles behind but with a similar ethos to me regarding vehicle care. What’s the worry?
My good friend traded in his 7 year old Audi Q7 with similar fears to you. His replacement A6 (new) is causing him no end of issues whilst his now 8 year old Q7 still plies the North Highlands without a glitch.
If you like the car, keep it. If you don’t, trade it!!
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| 2nd Mar 2023 1:10 pm |
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Jmcook
Member Since: 21 Jul 2013
Location: Windsor
Posts: 29
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I'm having a similar conundrum. I've spent quite a lot keeping the car fixed etc over the years with the suspension compressor, the alternators this that and some of the other, but now I'm getting issues with the secondary turbo and I can't decide whether to put on hard standing, spend some money on an IID and some parts and fix it, or let it go and give someone else the opportunity to get a D4 as a doer upper.
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| 2nd Mar 2023 1:44 pm |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6415
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if you have ext warranty like WD take it to Glenrands in Liphook they will do it right for more miles to come
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| 2nd Mar 2023 2:17 pm |
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alltnaha
Member Since: 21 Feb 2007
Location: London
Posts: 250
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Thanks for your views.
I'm going to test drive a few possible contenders. I'll start at the bottom with a Dacia Duster which may end any doubts I have about my D4!
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| 4th Mar 2023 9:24 am |
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Iansjones
Member Since: 02 Aug 2016
Location: Stroud
Posts: 98
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I went from a d4 2012 to RR sport 2016 v8 shape and then went back to a d4 2016.
I am dreading having to change again. As cannot find anything as practical and nice.
Don't get me wrong the RR sport was great. Excellent engine. Better mpg nice ride. Just didn't find as comfortable. Not as much boot space. Seats didn't fold flat. And more expensive to maintain. 2016 D4 Landmark
2015 RRS Autobiography (Gone)
2012 D4 HSE
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| 4th Mar 2023 11:36 am |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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I went from a D4 to XC90 to new Defender. I'm now looking at D4s again 
I bought my daughter a D3 recently for her gap year trip, when she finishes her A Levels. I love driving it when I'm allowed. The tailgate is just so useful. It's whats driving me back to a D4. The D5 just doesn't cut it and the Defender is underwhelming and the boot is tiny and side opening door a pain. The XC90 was great and if I'd have been sensible I'd have kept it.  D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 4th Mar 2023 11:50 am |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6415
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old habits die hard Moo hahahah
I tested XC90 but it is for architects and similar lol
Defender way to stupid and overprised
With ACC installed D4 is another class to drive gives so much more confidence and raises safety levels for old git like me whos focus aint as good as 20 years ago
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| 4th Mar 2023 12:31 pm |
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Iansjones
Member Since: 02 Aug 2016
Location: Stroud
Posts: 98
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Acc was one thing that sent me to the RR sport as i do a fair bit on the motorway
It is something I would like to retrofit 2016 D4 Landmark
2015 RRS Autobiography (Gone)
2012 D4 HSE
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| 4th Mar 2023 12:36 pm |
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Dexter
Member Since: 21 Sep 2007
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 1394
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Same situation here, 2016 D4 Landmark with 65k miles, owned since new and a big service looming in the summer. I feel I should change as I’ve not had a car over 5 years old for a long time but I just can’t see anything that ticks all the boxes other than better economy and arguably perceived reliability.
We need it to tow a large ti tent, carry lots of stuff, be wonderful to drive, carry 7 large people from time to time and be nice to look at out the window.
Looks like I’ll be spending a few bob on it and hanging on to it with a decent warranty 🤔
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| 4th Mar 2023 12:58 pm |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6415
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Iansjones wrote:Acc was one thing that sent me to the RR sport as i do a fair bit on the motorway
It is something I would like to retrofit
pretty easy install once you have all parts well worth it missus loves it
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