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taale1
 


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D4 EGR valves - can they be blanked off?

Hi all,

Does anyone know whether the EGR valves can be blanked off on a D4? And if so, where can I get it done and approximate cost? I'm in Melbourne and I have a TDV6 2.7.

The car is only 6 months old and i've noticed lots of black smoke since day 1. From what I have read (both on this forum and elsewhere) the smoke is largely because of the EGR system.

I've also read that blanking off the valves (on a 2.7 D3) helps get rid of the throttle hesitation on take off and helps with throttle response generally. Is this correct?

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Trent.
  
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D4 2.7 smokes more than the D3, probably due to different mapping. I would be getting the dealer to look at it as it is under warranty though.
Blanking in a Discovery after MY07 will bring up a fault code. NO solution yet but BAS are working on one I believe but you may have to wait longer for the D4.
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I suspect they can still be blanked but you will get a fault light, is that correct?
The fault light doesn't trigger anything else like limp home mode etc. does it?
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uktivo wrote:

The fault light doesn't trigger anything else like limp home mode etc. does it?


It might - many "minor" faults have an associated event counter. A priority algorithm then decides whether to escalate the problem based (in part) on the number of event counts. Not sure if this applies to the EGR fault light.

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Thumbs Up Basically it may cause limp mode or reduced power after it has been ogged too many times.
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This thread on the RRS forum indicates that it might work on later 2.7s.

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/post329818.html#329818
  
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taale1
 


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Thanks all!

Seems I won't know if it will work or not until I try it.

Where can I source the blank off parts? Are they difficult to fit?
  
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I (think) I read that you can feed Bleed air from the sump breather to "fool" the Sensor that it's still measuring Exhaust Gas...........

Of course, now that I'm trying to find it, it seems to be invisible.

Anyone got more info ??

Kiwirich
  
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Mines having a new turbo and intercooler at the mo for the same reason as yours .... Shocked but mine is the 3 litre version, might be worth getting it checked out at the stealers before any mods are tried and while it is still in warranty Neutral
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You can buy either of these Blanking plates:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/300658868078?ss...1423.l2661
I have these on my 05 and you cannot tell the EGR valves have been blanked from the outside of the engine.

http://bellautoservices.co.uk/products/lan...nking-kit/
With this kit you actually remove the connecting pipes from the EGR valves to the inlet manifold.

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kiwirich wrote:
I (think) I read that you can feed Bleed air from the sump breather to "fool" the Sensor that it's still measuring Exhaust Gas...........

The monitoring is a position feedback signal for the valve opening mechanism, not a gas sensor.
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