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D3 and myths of Global Warming
The myths of global warming in relation to D3 and other4x4's. The gas guzzling tax is just a way of raising more money by government.
MYTH: Scientists agree global warming is caused by man made CO2 emissions .
RESPONSE: There are nearly 18,000 signatures from scientists worldwide on a petition called The Oregon Petition which says that there is no evidence for man-made global warming theory nor for any impact from mankind's activities on climate. Many scientists believe that the Kyoto agreement is a total waste of time and one of the biggest political scams ever perpetrated on the public
MYTH: Atmospheric levels of CO2 are determined by how much coal, natural gas and oil we burn and how many trees we cut down.
RESPONSE:A report in the journal 'Science' in January of this year showed using information from ice cores with high time resolution that since the last ice age, every time when the temperature and carbon dioxide levels have shifted, the carbon dioxide change happened AFTER the temperature change, Changes in temperature precede changes in CO2, with a lag of around 800 years. So man-made global warming theory has put effect before cause — this shows that reducing carbon dioxide emissions is a futile King Canute exercise! What's more, both water vapour and methane are far more powerful greenhouse gases than carbon dioxide but they are ignored.
MYTH: The global warming we are experiencing is not natural. People are causing it. People are causing global warming by burning fossil fuels (like oil, coal and natural gas) and cutting down forests. Scientists have shown that these activities are pumping far more CO2 into the atmosphere than was ever released in hundreds of thousands of years. This buildup of CO2 is the biggest cause of global warming.
RESPONSE:: 96.5% of all carbon dioxide emissions are from natural sources, mankind is responsible for only 3.5%, with 0.6% coming from fuel to move vehicles, and about 1% from fuel to heat buildings. Yet vehicle fuel (petrol) is taxed at 300% while fuel to heat buildings is taxed at 5% even though buildings emit nearly twice as much carbon dioxide!
Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, currently only 350 parts per million have been over 18 times higher in the past at a time when cars, factories and power stations did not exist — levels rise and fall without mankind's help.
The planet does not need saving, but taking this on anyway, removing every car from every road in every country overnight would NOT produce any change in the carbon dioxide level of the atmosphere, in any case it is pointless trying to alter climate by changing carbon dioxide levels as the cause and effect is the other way round — it is changes in the activity of the Sun that cause temperature changes on earth, with any temperature rise causing carbon dioxide to de-gas from the oceans.
MYTH: In most parts of the world, the retreat of glaciers has been dramatic. The best available scientific data indicate that Greenland's massive ice sheet is shrinking.
RESPONSE: Extreme weather correlates with the cycle of solar activity, not carbon dioxide emissions or political elections, the recent heavy rainfall in winter and spring is a perfect example of this — it occurred at solar maximum at a time when solar maxima are very intense — this pattern may well repeat every 11 years until about 2045.
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22nd Mar 2007 1:13 pm
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22nd Mar 2007 1:21 pm
randalls
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thats nice, but it really needs some references to have any credibility... 2007 TDV6 HSE 'Silver Lady'. With 'free' privacy glass LOL.
Taking the greenpi$$ is: Green taxing your citizens more & using some of the money to buy nukes.
22nd Mar 2007 2:07 pm
StuRox
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How many cavemen did you see driving around in a 4x4 to cause the ice to melt
22nd Mar 2007 2:12 pm
lr1
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Randalls,
Re. references.
I did mention the journal 'Science', January of this year
However it is not meant to be a scientific paper but to bring attention to the fact that the media only put one side of the argument, usually the scare stories to sell newspapers. There are lots of internet sites Journals and books which deal with the subjects I have only scratched the surface of eg:
if you want some bedtime reading and graphs to lookat.
22nd Mar 2007 2:28 pm
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Been saying most of these things for years (as a geologist We kind of study these things) but was anyone listening???
22nd Mar 2007 2:58 pm
al cope
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OK - so heres an idea. We just have a "Soft Touch" tax, it applies to all of us that earn, drive, drink (smoke even), own our own places (ie traceable), and are therefore a soft touch when the govt of whatever flavour need a bit more cash. Why try and hide all the stealth taxes. At least my way it would be clear that we are mugs!
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22nd Mar 2007 3:10 pm
randalls
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Hopefully I am not duplicating this link - but there is a lot of good referenced material in this anti 4x4-site
some of you might also want to drop this guy a line too 2007 TDV6 HSE 'Silver Lady'. With 'free' privacy glass LOL.
Taking the greenpi$$ is: Green taxing your citizens more & using some of the money to buy nukes.
Wound right up about the kid and bumper thing. Struggling not to say what I really really think but I cant blame kid 100%, cant blame driver 100%, certainly cant blame car - too few facts, but suspect parent holds a fair proportion of the blame, kid was probably very very young based on the facts given.
Hope I have not upset anyone. Sorry.Life is what you make it.
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22nd Mar 2007 4:29 pm
randalls
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the only 'green' in this guys politics is probably envy......Nicely exposed picture for the sky also, a good example of why you should not use a camera in auto against a backlit subject. 2007 TDV6 HSE 'Silver Lady'. With 'free' privacy glass LOL.
Taking the greenpi$$ is: Green taxing your citizens more & using some of the money to buy nukes.
22nd Mar 2007 4:57 pm
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2007 TDV6 HSE 'Silver Lady'. With 'free' privacy glass LOL.
