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Gordon we seem to be cross posting, however scientific consensus IS very much divided on the issue, if you carry out a proper literature review, you might notice this. (Have you actually read some of the sources you give, I doubt it, on the other hand, I have, along with many other sources.)
The evidence would to many scientists suggest that mankinds contribution to CO2 is insignificant.
It is the suns changes in solar activity and its effect on cosmic ray flux, which changes CO2 levels which have varied from less than 300ppm to 7000ppm.
Minor fluctions in the suns awesum power changes the climate on earth, not insignificant contributions to CO2 levels by mankind. The notion that a 50 or even 500ppm increase in CO2 will cause a tipping effect has no basis in evidence given the history of the earths CO2 levels.
When the suns solar activity lowers again then CO2 levels will drop, if it increases they will rise. This powerful star right beside us is THE contributing factor and the small contributions man makes are insignificant.
When (if the cycle continues) the sun emits less radiation, again we are heading for another ice age. Levels of CO2 on earth has NO influence on what the sun does!
I should add that my current interest is the study of 'Solar Activity and Earth's Climate and the possible influence on Earth's CLOUD cover'. Recently it was found that the Earth's cloud cover, observed by satellites, is strongly correlated with galactic cosmic ray flux (GCR). Clouds play an important role in the Earths radiation budget. Thus any significant solar influence on global cloud properties can potentially be very important for Earths climate.
Some proper references for Gordon
Variation of Cosmic Ray Flux and Global Cloud Coverage - a Missing Link in Solar-Climate Relationships
by Henrik Svensmark and Eigil Friis-Christensen,
Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 59 (11) (1997) 1225-1232.
Influence of Cosmic Rays on Earth's Climate by Henrik Svensmark,
Physical Review Letters - November 30, 1998 - Volume 81, Issue 22, pp. 5027-5030
Cosmic rays and Earth's Climate
by Henrik Svensmark,
Space Science Review 93: 155-166, 2000
Low Cloud Properties influenced by Cosmic Rays. by Nigel Marsh and Henrik Svensmark
Physical Review Letter, December 4, 2000 - Volume 85, Issue 23, pp. 5004-5007.
Cosmic Rays, Clouds, and Climate
by Nigel Marsh and Henrik Svensmark,
Space Science Review, (In press)
by Henrik Svensmark and Eigil-Friis-Christensen
Journal Of Atmospheric And Solar-terrestrial Physics Vol. 62 (1) pp. 79-80
GCR and ENSO trends in ISCCP-D2 low cloud properties
by Nigel Marsh and Henrik Svensmark,
Journal of Geophysical Research , (In press)
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My god ND ....I think I would have to get the gun out for some on that forum ....Nowheels would be the first made to stand against the wall 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
23rd Mar 2007 5:48 pm
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can't do that DG - what would the wall-huggers think?
23rd Mar 2007 5:58 pm
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note to self - be nice to TFC and DG
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DiscoStu wrote:
Oooooh, I wanna go
Now we know why you got the roofrack DiscoStu! Strap that onto it and aim at the greenies through your camera! You wouldn't even have to get out of the air conned luxury (well if global warming was true you wouldn't want to warm up too much!!).
23rd Mar 2007 6:26 pm
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Quote:
"The Barrett 50 cal Sniper Rifle may have been the most useful piece of equipment for the urban fight – especially for our light fighters. The XM107 was used to engage both vehicular and personnel targets out to 1400 meters. Soldiers not only appreciated the range and accuracy but also the target effect. Leaders and scouts viewed the effect of the 50 cal round as a combat multiplier due to the psychological impact on other combatants that viewed the destruction of the target.
“My spotter positively identified a target at 1400 meters carrying an RPG on a water tower. I engaged the target. The top half of the torso fell forward out of the tower and the lower portion remained in the tower.†325th PIR Sniper
"There were other personal anecdotes of one round destroying two targets and another of the target “disintegrating.â€
right, let's see the to$$ers putting fake parking tickets on me D3 now 8)
23rd Mar 2007 6:26 pm
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rogue wrote:
not to self - be nice to TFC and DG
rogue, I agree, be nice to TFC as he helps get your car out when it's stuck!
Still thinking of reason to be nice to DG but I'm sure I will find one!
23rd Mar 2007 6:28 pm
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brought my roof bars off DG, so i think he's OK.......
TFC appears to be OK, just wonder about his predilection to military surplus, is what concerns me.
Sure hes a very, very nice man
23rd Mar 2007 6:35 pm
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Right Del ...you can stand against the wall as well21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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have to be a big wall DG, have to be a big wall......
Who said anything about surplus? that's just the crap stuff, the current stuff is what you want! 8)
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Right Del ...you can stand against the wall as well
