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Mark-w
 


Member Since: 23 Jul 2013
Location: North lincs
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England 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3
D3 to D4 how much of an upgrade ?

After having a D2 then a D3, I have decided to see about upgrading my 2006 D3, a suitable 2016 D4 graphite in loire blue with ebony leather was located at the local dealers approved used stock, the car is 18 months old with 13K on the clock.
Its a nice tidy car and comes with the benefit of being approved used with a 2 year warranty, its O number plate points to it being an ex landcover owned car a fact that was confirmed by the salesman.
Sitting in the car though I didn't get the wow factor, to be honest although there are differences its like sitting in the same car I've got now, Ill admit to not having driven it yet though.
Whilst at the dealer we also looked at a D5 2017 TD6 HSE in kiakora stone metallic with edony leather and panoramic roof. Wow, it really felt different to sit in, actually felt like a new car. Downside is its 10K more.
Sensibly I guess the D4 would be a good choice it’s 18 months old approved used with 2 years warranty and has only done 13,000. But as I said it feels the same as my D3, no wow factor.
Both are more money than I've ever spent on a car in my life, but I loved my D2 and the D3 felt like a massive upgrade from that we've always loved the D3, I'm concerned that the D4 is just the same car again with a few tweeks, thought id ask here as no doubt many have changed from a 3 to a 4, how was the change in the real world ?
 D4 graphite, Loire Blue, ebony leather.

D3 S Bonnatti Grey, Cloth interior -Gone

Defender 300tdi, 1994, Blue.
Mods:
Pretty much everything. Now also gone, to the USA I believe:

Merc SLK280 silver - sunny weekend toy 
 
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DSL
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I ran a 06MY D3 S and MY11 D4 HSE side by side and my thoughts are the former is like wearing a well worn pair of loafers, the latter a pair of brogues. Basically same car, posher version and not abused like the D3 was. I also ran a MY06 D3 HSE for a while and my present D4 feels pretty much as it did, just a bit punchier.

But bear in mind those are all 6 speeders, not the 8 in the Graphite.
   
Post #191864525th Feb 2018 8:20 am
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Red Merle
 


Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
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This is a thread that should be worth reading the last few posts of, just after he’s picked the new car up:

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/0-sleeps-16...ore+sleeps

It’s certainly worth giving it a good test drive Thumbs Up

If it’s simply time to move on to try something that’s very different (you may no longer need what the D3/4 uniquely offers and/or you may just fancy a change?) and, if a D5 might be good enough, could it be worth trying some broadly similar cars from Volvo, VW/Audi/Skoda, BMW and the like?
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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Red Merle
 


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 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
Post #191892825th Feb 2018 9:14 pm
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lespes
 


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Driving wise you will find the D4 a much bigger step up from the D3, than going from a D4 to a D5.

D5 is very different cosmetically but the under pinnings are much the same and I did not find it drove any better than my D4.

Previous incarnations of the Discovery have always had a similar shape but good upgrades in performance and comfort underneath, the D5 has gone for a different look, which comes at even more of a premium price.
 D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!

Now demoted to a VW 
 
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B16 KJR
 


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I had exactly the same dilemma last year. I owned a 2006 D3 'S' from new, but had waited for the D5 coming out before changing it. When the D5 came out it looked good, but there were a few things I didn't like but could live with, but even with the order form filled in I just wasn't getting excited about the purchase.

Once I had a test tow with the D5 however I quickly decided that it wasn't the car for me and cancelled the order then sourced one of the last new D4 Landmarks available. The D3 and D4 are exactly the same car but completely different if that makes any sense ? The D4 is much smoother, quieter, more powerful, more comfortable etc. Hope this helps Thumbs Up
  
Post #191908926th Feb 2018 11:27 am
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Sloppy
 


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d4 is much nicer than 3, biggest change is prob reliability (questionable by some) but mainly the 3.0 engine it makes a massive difference, biggest is mpg response/power (and my d3 was mapped)

As fate has it i have 2 d4's an 8 speed last of the range 2016 landmark and a 2011 6 speed mpg is very similar and performance virtually identical, there are certain areas where the 6 speed is more punchy/responsive but 8 speed better cruiser.

However they both make my 05 hse d3 look very old and tired, they are like most changes in ranges, more refined and improved but as said the engine is the big leap forward.
  
Post #191940926th Feb 2018 9:34 pm
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M3DPO
 


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Disappointingly there are many little things missing off the D4 that was on the D3, some that I really miss, they have gone from 100% practical to 100% cosmetic/pretty IMHO, switches are not so logical, I find myself having to look for a switch where as on the D3 I just felt for it and it was there even with gloves on, long range high beam lamp replaced with indicators Crying or Very sad , looks pretty I must admit but I Would rather see where I'm going in the dark. No FBH indicator lamp, cup holders and memory seat switches you have to be a contortionist to use.
But once you get behind the wheel all this is forgiven, the smoothness, low down torque and gentle purr of the engine and eight speed gearbox is phenomenal, miles I front of the D3 and I used to love mine but I would not like to go back. These cold mornings they have got a FBH that really warms the car up, you can feel the heat coming out of the car when you open the door.
Not noticed much improvement in economy though, but who cares, all I want to do is drive it Very Happy
 It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't. 
 
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Dusty
 


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I sometimes think the we over play the jump from D3 to D4 and forget what a great vehicle the D3 was.
My D3 was 11 years old with 120k on the clock, and the D4 a year old with 9k on the clock. Age and mileage alone will make it seem a nicer place to be.

But I never thought it was a massive leap. The D3 had not long had it's suspension renewed, gearbox flushed and had been chipped, so it drove superbly and dare I say it but in many ways I preferred the 6 speed gearbox!!

Having said all that the D4 is a lovely place to be and you won't be disappointed.

Going from D2 to D3 was like going from a tractor to a limo. I just didn't get that experience going from D3 to D4 Thumbs Up
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Post #191950727th Feb 2018 8:34 am
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Russell
 


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lespes wrote:
Driving wise you will find the D4 a much bigger step up from the D3, than going from a D4 to a D5.

D5 is very different cosmetically but the under pinnings are much the same and I did not find it drove any better than my D4.

Previous incarnations of the Discovery have always had a similar shape but good upgrades in performance and comfort underneath, the D5 has gone for a different look, which comes at even more of a premium price.


Not sure what D5 you drove but after having D3 and various D4's the D5 is a big improvement and a massive step up when driving
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #191951727th Feb 2018 8:45 am
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Russell
 


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D4 6 speed to D4 8 speed is a big jump, there are things that are missing from the D3 to D4 in the snse there are not so many storage spaces but it is still a very nice car, the drive expirience is a big jump
 MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club 
 
Post #191951827th Feb 2018 8:49 am
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Red Merle
 


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@mark-w: Curious to know what your current thoughts on this are? Have you had a test drive in either of them yet?

If the D5 is your thing, would you try an XC90?
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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Mark-w
 


Member Since: 23 Jul 2013
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Haven’t driven either yet, a family bereavement and the current weather situation have prevented that.
My current thoughts are:
Both are more money than I’ve ever spent on a car.
I’m thinking the D4 being the lower spec graphite and also end of production model may depreciate considerably more.
If I go for a D4 would I be better with a Landmark edition, although looking at approved used these all seem to come in at around 45K which isn’t all that far away from the D5
I checked the trade in price on my D3 with WBAC strangely it was identical so think this is were the dealers get there price from.
Our use of current D3 is limited to my wife travelling to and from the school she works at 3 miles away and then weekend use and towing caravan for holidays 3 or 4 times a year. Which raises the question do we even need a car of that quality/ value.
More questions than answers at the moment I’m afraid, I’ll keep you posted.
 D4 graphite, Loire Blue, ebony leather.

D3 S Bonnatti Grey, Cloth interior -Gone

Defender 300tdi, 1994, Blue.
Mods:
Pretty much everything. Now also gone, to the USA I believe:

Merc SLK280 silver - sunny weekend toy 
 
Post #19204511st Mar 2018 7:24 am
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Red Merle
 


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Very sorry to hear of your loss.

I can answer one, possibly 2, questions for you there - late, high spec, D4 used values are holding very strongly and have done so for the last 18 months. This being the “go to” car for D3/4 drivers who are unimpressed with the ‘5, it is highly likely to stay that way for low mileage examples of this for some time - especially if they are Euro 6 and can avoid much of the emissions related hype for a few years to come. They are only close to D5’s if you are comparing it with very basic, 4 cylinder, versions that would be a poor second best to a Landmark Thumbs Up
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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Mark-w
 


Member Since: 23 Jul 2013
Location: North lincs
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England 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

Decision made, deposit just paid on the 66 plate D4 graphite edition, Loire Blue with ebony leather 13k on the clock, landrover approved used so 2 years warranty, very pleased with our decision.
The D3 has done use proud for the 3 years we’ve had it, but at nearly 12 years old with 120k on the clock I decided it was time to change.
 D4 graphite, Loire Blue, ebony leather.

D3 S Bonnatti Grey, Cloth interior -Gone

Defender 300tdi, 1994, Blue.
Mods:
Pretty much everything. Now also gone, to the USA I believe:

Merc SLK280 silver - sunny weekend toy 
 
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