IronMan
Member Since: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Midrand
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| Chipping, TorqTune mods and High Pressure Diesel Pumps? |
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My D3 TDV6 has just been released from ICU after a week. New High Pressure Diesel pump fitted after failure. (not low pressure pump as was originally thought)
Now I was wondering if there could be any connection between this and the TorqTune done on it 6 months ago... 
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 5th Dec 2007 1:39 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Any idea on what caused the pump failure - not maybe bad fuel ?
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| 5th Dec 2007 2:02 pm |
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IronMan
Member Since: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Midrand
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In 80,000 km I can count on one hand when I did not use low sulpher diesel. Even in Lesotho I had enough low suplher Diesel with me to carry me through to the next re-fuel.
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| 5th Dec 2007 3:01 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Maybe you should have gone for Turbo Chip instead (ducking)
Seriously though , I doubt a remap could be responsible
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| 5th Dec 2007 8:35 pm |
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SummerRain
Member Since: 09 Oct 2007
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I've had 2 peugeot diesel cars and both had CR pump failures.....I'm sure I read somewhere that the TDV6 is also a peugeot engine....maybe that's the connection 
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| 5th Dec 2007 8:44 pm |
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catoperator
Member Since: 29 Jan 2006
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| Re: Chipping, TorqTune mods and High Pressure Diesel Pumps? |
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Now I was wondering if there could be any connection between this and the TorqTune done on it 6 months ago... [/quote]
NO is the simple answer ,
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| 5th Dec 2007 9:06 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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SummerRain wrote:I've had 2 peugeot diesel cars and both had CR pump failures.....I'm sure I read somewhere that the TDV6 is also a peugeot engine....maybe that's the connection
Wash your mouth out with soap, a Peugeot engine indeed 
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| 5th Dec 2007 9:11 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
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countrywide wrote:Wash your mouth out with soap, a Peugeot engine indeed
Afraid so....the TDV6 is made by Ford/PSA......it just sounds so 'common' when you call it a Peugeot engine 
If you're really feeling particularly nasty you could say it was 'almost' built by Citröen. 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| 5th Dec 2007 9:14 pm |
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Slimer
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Stu will give us the finer details but I think it's safer to say made by Ford and used in Pugs The End
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| 5th Dec 2007 9:22 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
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Slimer wrote:Stu will give us the finer details but I think it's safer to say made by Ford and used in Pugs
Just looked it up.....you're right Slimer 
wikipedia wrote: * 2004 Jaguar S-Type
* 2005 Land Rover Discovery
* 2005 Land Rover Range Rover Sport
* 2005 Peugeot 607
* 2005 Peugeot 407 coupé
* 2006 Citroën C6
* 2007 Jaguar XF
It is built by Ford in Dagenham and was developed in partnership with PSA.  2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| 5th Dec 2007 9:33 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
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| Re: Chipping, TorqTune mods and High Pressure Diesel Pumps? |
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IronMan wrote:My D3 TDV6 has just been released from ICU after a week. New High Pressure Diesel pump fitted after failure. (not low pressure pump as was originally thought)
Now I was wondering if there could be any connection between this and the TorqTune done on it 6 months ago...
Very unlikely, most HP pump failures are due to misfuelling or high ethanol content in the fuel causing lack of lubrication, I know of several HP pumps that have been replaced due to incorrect plumbing of the fuel filter allowing debris to enter the pump. Torq-Tune does not increase the fuel rail pressure as much as some other remaps and certainly nowhere near that of some of the more basic plug-in boxes although boost in fuel rail pressure would not, in itself, cause failure of the pump. Given the precise manufacturing and operating tolerances, it's more likely to be an latent defect than any outside influence or contamination that caused the failure.
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| 6th Dec 2007 8:43 pm |
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DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: London
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PaulP wrote:Slimer wrote:Stu will give us the finer details but I think it's safer to say made by Ford and used in Pugs
Just looked it up.....you're right Slimer
wikipedia wrote: * 2004 Jaguar S-Type
* 2005 Land Rover Discovery
* 2005 Land Rover Range Rover Sport
* 2005 Peugeot 607
* 2005 Peugeot 407 coupé
* 2006 Citroën C6
* 2007 Jaguar XF
It is built by Ford in Dagenham and was developed in partnership with PSA.
Blimey, who'd have thought it? Disco 5 HSE Lux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peyiqaJrmMU
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| 7th Dec 2007 8:47 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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I agree wholehartedly with what 10FC said.
Plus, the engine would not ever be working at its full potential up here at 1500-2000m.
I think more likely crap fuel. We have very little in the way of quality control, even in SA, and even less in the rest of Africa. Sometimes whats displayed on the pump isn't whats in the tank, and its very difficult to prove till you get the symptoms thousands of kays later.
The TDV6 somehow doesn't exhibit the same reaction as my TD5 did - you would hardly even be able to get mobile if you had a tank of junk in the TD5, but in the TDV6 you don't notice so much. I have had some dubious fuel in Botswana, Namibia and Angola, and the performance is still fine, but the fuel filter got blocked very quickly.
But, if you want to remove the tune, thats no problem either. Part of the service
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| 7th Dec 2007 9:54 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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And Heine - you better duck, mate! 
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| 7th Dec 2007 9:58 am |
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DG
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I've had TT for over 9 months now ...without any problems other than SuperPermagrin  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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