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In car comms
Hi all,
Am thinking of comms for off roading and green laning
I have an old small albrecht CB with a small mag mount antenna. But no ones ever out the and it’s range is limited
What is the most popular form of radio fitted these days do you use CB,PMR, HAM or the new network radios
I do like the sound of the network radios as there’s no range issues and you can set up groups so things can be kept private.
Does anyone use these new radios and are there any groups set up to join
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13th Apr 2019 7:33 pm
JonM
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For green laning, CB is still the standard option.
Most people don't have HAM licences and you're often in places without any mobile phone network coverage so direct vehicle to vehicle communication is needed. PMR can work as well but CB tends to have better range.MY2022 D5 HSE D300 - with extra nice bits added
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13th Apr 2019 8:35 pm
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Cab does the job. Most of the time the corona car is telling the last car whether the gate was open or closed.
13th Apr 2019 8:48 pm
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Thanks all for replies
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19th Apr 2019 9:32 am
malliedamoocha
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I'm considering this as part of my setup. I'm with the Scouts so we have access to some shared frequencies up to 5W but am conscious that I'm not always going to be out with the Scouts.
I'm not at all surprised that CB is used, PMR is only 0.5W (if you want to stay legal) where CB transmits at 4W - so a lot more range on offer.
I've been considering something like these Quad Band radios which do CB frequencies as well as business and PMR frequencies - sort of an all-in-one box:
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I have both Yaesu and Wouxon kit, hand held and mobile rigs. Multi-band is useful, you may still find 'gaps' in the bands on off-the shelf Yaesu kit (for example, avoiding air band freqs on VHF) whereas the chinese kit is less, err, 'strict'. It's quite handy that I could (in an emergency, and if I felt it was worth stretching the rules - i.e. I'd come across a casualty) respond to a coastguard on maritime freqs from a Wouxon h/held I carry in the hills for personal Ham comms.
A lot of PMR is also dependent on CTCSS coding or tiny frequency steps that you will also need to be able to handle.
CB is effectively HF (or Shortwave in other terms) and although that Yaesu set does 29MHz band (aka '10 Metre' band) it's not 'CB' in terms of the 27MHz UK channel 1-40 that we all know.
Your biggest hurdle on top of all this is antennae - asking one antenna to do everything from HF right up to UHF (for 446 PMR) is not going to work out well, so you would have to be prepared to swap around for different applications.D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
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25th Sep 2019 2:40 pm
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We run network radios with our 4x4 response group and tried them greenlaning out of interest.
The lag is too noticeable especially for some of the usage you'll be using a radio for.
We now use CB again for greenlaning.
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25th Sep 2019 2:59 pm
malliedamoocha
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Quote:
We run network radios with our 4x4 response group and tried them greenlaning out of interest.
Yeah, Network Radios are great and all but not out in the sticks with no mobile coverage. That said, I'll be finding a way to squeeze Zello into my setup.
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Your biggest hurdle on top of all this is antennae
Aerials was one of my concerns, it looks like there's only the one connector, so some switching would be needed I think. Not a nightmare, I could work with that (not like I'll need to spend much time switching between multiple modes at a single event).
As for the gaps, I'm looking at a specific frequency list - so I'm not going to be monitoring much outside of that. So long as all the CB channels are there, and enough of the Scout frequencies are available it should be useable.
25th Sep 2019 3:09 pm
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Switching is possible but not always practical as you'd need several mounts to match. Ensuring your antennae have the same mount (BNC, 3/8, PL259, etc) will allow you to swap quickly on one mount.
And just for the avoidance of doubt - I don't see that you can receive or transmit on UK 27MHz CB Bands on either of those sets you linked to. If I've missed some detail somewhere I apologise.D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
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25th Sep 2019 3:33 pm
malliedamoocha
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And just for the avoidance of doubt - I don't see that you can receive or transmit on UK 27MHz CB Bands on either of those sets you linked to
No, not missing anything. I was looking at one of the Chinese models, but used those for reference. Pretty sure the ones I was looking at covered the CB frequencies.
And yeah, the plan was to cable up a mount with interchangeable antennae - swap and go. Not wanting to stack up 5 whippies on the back of my truck, funny though it would look.
25th Sep 2019 4:35 pm
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