DN wrote:

pgm-84. My near neighbours ID3 has been taken away on a flat bed truck twice. The 1st time it was gone for 7weeks, and the second 5 weeks. I’m afraid no amount of cajoling would see me in one of those

Moo wrote:

. Also, industry is to far down the road to U-Turn.

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Dean
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2011 D4 XS - OBD port protection, RLD spare wheel protector, All LED interiors lights, Timed Climate enabled, iiD tool paired.
2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
2011 D4 GS - Stolen whilst at dealer ... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
1996 300Tdi - Eaten by tin worms 

DG wrote:

I have family and friends in Wales who are freaking out and losing their minds about the 20mph limit devoid of the fact that some of us have been subject to 20mph limit for some considerable time e.g. in my experience, within Greater London, particularly since 2020.

I believe that 20 mph is an appropriate application that requires enforcement in certain circs e.g. outside schools, hospitals etc ... everywhere else however and where unenforced I will continue to drive as fast as I can to the local conditions and circumstances. This applies to the 3 days a week I drive from Surrey into Holborn, undertaken mainly without relative pain.

My view is suck it up where enforced and take advantage where not ...sleep easy

Enforcement of the 30 mph limit would have been more effective than imposing a change to an unenforced 20 mph limit. A limit of 20 mph in cities and urban areas where the traffic is not going much faster than that anyway isn't too bad. If I worked in the nearest large town (Carmarthen) it would be a sixteen mile commute each way, ten miles at 50 mph limit, six at 30 mph = 32 minutes. Change the latter to 20 mph and it is 'only' an extra three minutes but it seems like an eternity! Even 20 mph can be too fast.

The whole 20 mph project is supposed to be [Skid] Mark Drakeford's lasting legacy for Wales - in the same way that the War on Terror was Tony Blair's lasting legacy.

More enforcement and education (Rule 126 of the Highway Code being a prime example) would have been better use of the funds but, hey, a more-or-less bankrupt nation is stilling spending on rainbow zebra crossings (£19K a pop) and has a small army of civil servants deployed on 'woke' duties that nobody wants and nobody asked for. We are now being told that a rise in Council Tax will have to come to cover all the £55 signs that have gone missing / defaced.

Walesonline reports the results of a survey that more people support the 20 mph limit than oppose it. That is the same sort of result as when people are asked about getting drivers out of cars and onto public transport - they agree when it is other people that has to do it.

I agree with the 20 mph limit and (the law is the law) drive at or below it. I don't agree with the way it has been imposed and I don't agree with the pre-declared lack of enforcement.

Moo wrote:

Yep. Everywhere that was 30 is now 20.