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pat 68

Member Since: 19 Aug 2006
Location: NORFOLK
Posts: 1

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Java Black

biodiesel

hello everyone any views and info on bio diesel

19th Aug 2006 9:11 pm

dylansdad

Member Since: 04 Apr 2006
Location: Solihull
Posts: 745

2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver

other than I believe its not meant to be used in the D3 no.

oh and Hi!

2004 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver

19th Aug 2006 9:19 pm

LeighW
D3 Decade

Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Bonatti Grey

Specific reference to bio-diesel was made in the RHD markets Owner's Manuals for 2004, 2005 and 2006 but the 2007 manual says on p188

"The maximum allowable Bio-diesel mix is 5%, meeting EN 590 specification."

Now to my way of thinking, my engine is still the same engine that has been in 2004-2006 manufactured models therefore the new info regarding bio-diesel should apply. Especially with the enhancement upgrade recently applied.

If anyone else has other information, please advise.

Regrettably, a local manufacturer has decided to produce a 20% biodiesel, so that is out of the equation for me.

Leigh LeighW

The old girl is on her third engine...
* first ran a bearing (design failure in original engine)
* second had a failure of the water outlet on top of the engine (pls check yours)

20th Aug 2006 12:28 am

norto

Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
Posts: 1605

2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Chawton White

Leigh
what sort of changes has the
enhancement made to your Disco

20th Aug 2006 1:00 am

LeighW
D3 Decade

Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920

Hi Peter
If you mean the LR enhancement - I live in Brisbane but the car is serviced on the Gold Coast. It went in to have a lower glove box catch replacement and they did the enhancement at that time. I was able to detect a little more response at low speeds (possibly turbo lag reduced) but the biggest change has been lower fuel consumption.

Religiously, I have kept a record of the fuel consumption and it shows (for similar driving conditions) that the amount used is about 10.5 l/100 km compared with 11.64 for the period from purchase in Jan 06 to early July.

I have not noticed any noiser engine as some posters have mentioned, nor have I noticed any differences in overtaking. It was quite acceptable even before the enhancement.

The big PLUS for me was the loss of prominent black soot when driving away from stop signs/lights and staying with the traffic flow. That has gone.

If you meant an LRTuning type enhancement, I haven't had that done, so I can't comment.

Get the enhancement done as soon as possible because there are many other things that are attended to, including checking the rear struts' mounts. They Loctite 'em if necessary.

Leigh LeighW

The old girl is on her third engine...
* first ran a bearing (design failure in original engine)
* second had a failure of the water outlet on top of the engine (pls check yours)

20th Aug 2006 1:15 am

Haggis

Member Since: 26 Jun 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 126

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Chawton White

I picked up my TDV6 on Friday (June 06 build). The Owners Handbook says not suitable for Biodiesel, but the Warranty booklet indicates warranty won't apply if more than 5% mix.....

I haven't seen Biodiesel readily available at my usual haunts yet, and I figure the occasional use of a low volume mix shouldn't be a problem. D3 (06) SE TDV6, Rear Locker, Rear Air, ARB bar w/winch, Safari Snorkel, 110l aux fuel tank, Kaymar rear bar (twin wheel carrier), Black Widow rear storage system, Rhino rack, GME UHF, Codan HF, IPF HID lights, CSA Explorer 17" w/BFG Mud Terrain KM2 - see Australian 4WD Monthly #103

20th Aug 2006 1:21 am

DiscoStu

Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: London
Posts: 11412

LeighW wrote:
Now to my way of thinking, my engine is still the same engine that has been in 2004-2006 manufactured models therefore the new info regarding bio-diesel should apply. Especially with the enhancement upgrade recently applied.

If anyone else has other information, please advise.

I'll see what I can dig up - but it won't be for a week as I'm on a course next week. Disco 5 HSE Lux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peyiqaJrmMU

20th Aug 2006 9:02 am

catweasel

Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805

Haggis wrote:
I picked up my TDV6 on Friday (June 06 build)

mine's supposed to be a June build. have not heard anything yet. when did the ship dock or you get told it was in ?

20th Aug 2006 10:20 am

LeighW
D3 Decade

Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920

Sorry - off subject

Hi catweasel - my car seemed to take forever to get through the bond store but once clear it took about a week before she was in my hands.

Be patient, as you have probably gathered from the DISCO3 site, it is worth the wait.

Leigh
PS - Love your devotion to duty signified by your new sign off line!! LeighW

The old girl is on her third engine...
* first ran a bearing (design failure in original engine)
* second had a failure of the water outlet on top of the engine (pls check yours)

20th Aug 2006 11:14 am

LeighW
D3 Decade

Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920

Sorry - off subject

Hi catweasel - my car seemed to take forever to get through the bond store but once clear it took about a week before she was in my hands.

Be patient, as you have probably gathered from the DISCO3 site, it is worth the wait.

Leigh
PS - Love your devotion to duty signified by your new sign off line!! LeighW

The old girl is on her third engine...
* first ran a bearing (design failure in original engine)
* second had a failure of the water outlet on top of the engine (pls check yours)

20th Aug 2006 11:15 am

catweasel

Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805

yeah, patience is a virtue my old man used to say, but seeing as I have none.............
my dealer knows why it's important to me to have the car by a certain date and I thought they'd keep you better informed. getting info sometimes is like pulling teeth and you think if it's in the country they'd have some idea of arrival (insurance to organise, plane ticket to purchase, day off work to be organised etc). I did order in April but since it's my first 4x4 and first new car

makes it all the much harder

dealer will be getting (another) call tommorrow.

20th Aug 2006 11:51 am

Xplore

Member Since: 06 Aug 2006
Location: LISBON
Posts: 22

2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Tonga Green

LeighW wrote:

"The maximum allowable Bio-diesel mix is 5%, meeting EN 590 specification."

Now to my way of thinking, my engine is still the same engine that has been in 2004-2006 manufactured models therefore the new info regarding bio-diesel should apply. Especially with the enhancement upgrade recently applied.

If anyone else has other information, please advise.

B5 (5% Biodiesel 95% diesel), is supported by any diesel engine sold in Europe. Some European (EU) counties already enforce the 5% Biodiesel to be added to diesel by default, and it will be compulsory sometime in the future.
The main problems with BD are:
The fuel circuit from the deposit to the engine must be 100% of synthetic rubber (BD corrodes natural rubber), so all components, including pumps, must not have any component that uses natural rubber.
The other main problem is viscosity of the fuel in low temperatures. Becoming thicker means some parts of the fueling system may not be conveniently lubricated, leading to problems in the long term.
Most problems in using BD without care only arrive after many Kms.
Typically LR would jump at the opportunity in having their cars use â€˜greenerâ€™ Bio Fuels (BioDiesel, BioEthanol...). I believe that it will come in the near future, with the 2.7 V6 and 3.6 V8 diesel engines (the new RR V8 Diesel has basically the same engine technology), and that only minor changes, if any will be necessary.
While Ford is â€˜proudlyâ€™ announcing the Flexible Fuel engine that will run on BioEthanol ou Petrol indiscriminately, this technology has existed in Brazil for years now, and it has been proven that cars running on E85 (85% Bioethanol 15% Petrol), and B80 (80% BD 20% Dielsel), have better MPG and performance than the 100% Fossil fuel counterparts using the same engines. The problem is more of a â€˜Politicalâ€™ nature, because the technology exists...

20th Aug 2006 2:57 pm

DSL
Keeper of the wheelie bin

Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73149

catweasel wrote:
yeah, patience is a virtue my old man used to say, but seeing as I have none.............

CW, don't wnt to rub salt into the wound but......

You will enjoy it even more when it arrives! Knowing how much you need yours, they could have airlifted it for U???

Took mine offroading for first time last weekend, off again Saturday. Already bashed the life out of my side runners! Good old UK weather produces excellent mud!

22nd Aug 2006 8:49 am

catweasel

Member Since: 05 May 2006
Location: Bundaleer
Posts: 4805

oh well, two weeks to go

nice pic by the way

you loved that, you'll be all out of salt soon

22nd Aug 2006 10:52 am

DSL
Keeper of the wheelie bin

Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73149

Tx, BTW will never run out of salt, unless wife stops buying it!

22nd Aug 2006 12:49 pm