Best all round tyre for economic tyre wear and fuel economy?
Vredestein Wintrac
15%
15%
[7]
Pirelli Scorpion Zero
6%
6%
[3]
Pirelli Scorpion ATR
34%
34%
[15]
Michelin Latitude
2%
2%
[1]
Goodyear Wrangler ATR
9%
9%
[4]
Goodyear General Grabber AT2
31%
31%
[14]
Total Votes: 44
disco_steve
Member Since: 25 Aug 2009
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I had BF Goodrich AT's on my D2 and got an amazing 108k (yes 108 thousand) miles !!
In light of the lack of choice for 19" rims, I have just changed these on my HSE for 18" SE ones, main reason - better tyre choice, so, from above I gather the Pirellii ATR's are good
Anyone run on General Grabber AT's
Just back from the LRE Snowdonia outing, and of all the tyres on 'display' the GY MTR's seemed good, but the LRE cars were on the OEM Pirelli Scorpion Zeros, and performed just as good - so decisions decisions Never get mad - get even !!
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31st Jan 2010 10:29 pm
Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
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AT2's great tyre and Great aesthetically however the sidewalls are prone to damage pushed the AT2 to is limits and beyond in Morocco and very impressed
ATRs are even better in side wall resilience however they don't have the same aggressive stance as AT2's
So the Choice really is form over function
31st Jan 2010 10:52 pm
Discotres
Member Since: 25 Jan 2010
Location: London
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Did anyone have Vredestien wintracs in the desert? Would be interested to know how they performed in sand with self clearing tread
31st Jan 2010 11:16 pm
Ken
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Now we know you are a just off little boy :wink:and play with your maplin remote control D3
1st Feb 2010 6:39 am
AJS4X4
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Surrey
Posts: 3224
Disco_Steve,
Now thats what you call value for money.
We have seen some huge mileages from BFGoodrich AT tyres over the years, even the MT is not bad either, the only down side is on some higher mileage BFG AT's we are seeing the casings fail and going out of shape, mind you at that stage I think you have had your monies worth I think.
Andy.
1st Feb 2010 6:58 am
Ken
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OK mine came with the D3...they lasted 25k ish miles
But the last few M's these were desperate in the wet....planing on anything but a dry road
despite the fact they weren't down to minimum millimetres....strangely OK in some 2009 snow
When they came of to fit the Vreds....the tyre shop commented they had never seen tyres go this way....
shiny & glazed....the wear pattern was even (I work hard at keeping right pressure)
Its a pity tyre type + make cant be chosen when you buy buy or order the car from new
Previously on a D2 used Wranglers & these lasted into the high 30k miles with far better grip right till the endBREXIT - done properly.
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1st Feb 2010 7:57 am
ryetecman
Member Since: 01 Jun 2008
Location: Malton
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Grabber AT2 get my vote just done 52K on a set and only taken off to put on a set of Goodyear MTR's for the snow as the tread on the AT2's while still leagal was no good on our terrible country roads especailly when towing large trailers which I do all the time.AT2's are great if you drive on roads with lots of surface water, found original goodyears aquaplanes alot on our outback roads, AT2's cured this.
To get high milage on a D3 (whatever tyres you prefer) you must turn the tyres on the rims when you start to notice the inside edge of the tyre dissapearing (both front and back)as this will be the reason to change the tyres not nice even wear accross the tyre, thats the penalty we pay for independant suspension. Love landrovers despite all the've thrown at me !
Grabber AT2 would be the choice of the masses....... It's the Ford Mondeo of the tyres which is certainly not a criticism. It does most things very well, it looks reasonable and manly, and it doesn't give away much on the road side of performance. However, the ATR would be the discerning choice of the Horse & Hounds reader you know...... As well as one or two plebs in full fat Rangies The older I get, the more I realise that people confuse wrinkles for wisdom
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1st Feb 2010 10:32 am
sandylane
Member Since: 20 Dec 2009
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 74
JMC wrote:
However, the ATR would be the discerning choice of the Horse & Hounds reader you know...... As well as one or two plebs in full fat Rangies
Don't Grabbers have white writing on them? Isn't that a bit vulgar for genlemen of the country and FFRR owners? Club D4 XS
Club Pirelli Scorpion ATR
1st Feb 2010 4:12 pm
Ken
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He means Scorpion ATR not a white letter in site
1st Feb 2010 4:14 pm
sandylane
Member Since: 20 Dec 2009
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 74
Ken wrote:
He means Scorpion ATR not a white letter in site
Ah yes - it helps if I read the post properly
Must admit, no matter how many extra miles or ££ saved, one simply can't bring oneself to put Grabbers with white "graffitti" onto a D4...... Club D4 XS
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1st Feb 2010 4:39 pm
AJS4X4
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Surrey
Posts: 3224
No white letters on the General AT2 in 17" and 18" either, even if there were they can be fitted facing inwards.
Interesting thread, I've just come over from t'other side, as I'll soon be after some new treads for my ex-G4 Challenge RRS and want something a little more useful than the trash Vredesteins fitted to the front by the dealer. Given that some of you boys with the D3's use them a tad differently to the RRS chaps I thought I'd come for a look here instead
My 'problem' if you like is that I'm sticking to the OEM 19" rims, I can't be faffed with having smaller wheels / another set of wheels so I'm looking at either a 255/50 or 255/55 19 and of course therein lies the issue, the choice of tyre is limited. I do iro 25k miles a year so tyre life and being a V8 petrol, mpg impact is important to me, which rules out a set of MT/R's. Predominantly motorway & road but I work on construction sites, so it does get used in the muck (also do the odd green lane / offroad type stuff) and I want something that will work offroad. The Conti's on the rear don't struggle too much in the mucky stuff, so they're an option I guess.
I've come from an old P38 that I used to run on the OEM Pirelli ST's, which lasted forever, were relatively cheap *and* worked well offroad, certainly never had any complaints at all. From the posts in this thread there's a clear favourite in the General, with the Pirelli ATR coming in as well albeit it sounds like a costly tyre, but I'm assuming that's in an 18" ? I've looked at Cooper's, but the size is the limiting factor, looks like I'd have to go the whole hog and buy a set of 20" Stormers with LTZ's on, which isn't my preferred route just yet !
Any recommendations from those of you running 19" wheels, I'd really appreciate it. I've only recently bought this car so I'm not so well informed on the tyre choices.
Help !
Cheers
MikeBV55 YZE, ex G4 Challenge RRS. So not a Disco 3. Well, not quite.
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