Sorry I see lots every day and didnt realise you knew where it was from.
Sorry, can't let this one slip by... FFS credit us with a bit of intelligence Goffie, take a look around the site, do you not think LR3 has ever been mentioned before in the past (almost) 4 years the site's been running? Just look on the home page and I suspect you'll see it mentioned several time I realise you're new here so I won't drag this on any more but please take a second to think before posting otherwise the ridicule engine will step up a gear
BTW, it's not just the USA that gets the LR3 badge....The End
4th Aug 2008 5:52 pm
flinty99
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4th Aug 2008 5:57 pm
simon
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What Si said
4th Aug 2008 9:25 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Was on that part of the
M6 little later & didn't see said LR3.
4th Aug 2008 9:44 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
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It could belong to a member of the US armed forces stationed in UK. I've seen a few yank tanks around their airbases over here, so maybe it came in via the USAF and got locally registered.
4th Aug 2008 10:36 pm
Neil Pettersen
Member Since: 23 Nov 2007
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..... Couple of questions Guys ;
How long can an overseas plated vehicle be driven in the UK without local registration ?
Does the LHD position not constitute an accident-risk ?
Is VAT applicable to non-EU vehicles ?
Can I assume EU plates can drive in the UK without time restriction ?
Is there a Company importing secondhand LHD LR3 V6&8 into the UK(from cheap countries) as is
the case with Jap cars over here ?
...... When I lived in Ipswich in the early eighties, the USAF flyers out of Woodbridge drove US plated
cars ,and some of those guys lived here for years .
4th Aug 2008 10:41 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
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I'm not sure if there is a time limit. A chap that used to work for me had a lhd Pug 405 estate that he bought new in Belgium whilst serving in the UK armed forces.
He left the army, and moved to the UK and brough the car with him. After a year he registered it in UK and it was given an age related uk number.
Then several years later, Slimer bought it and drove it across the sahara desert and left it in Gambia, where it is probably still serving as a taxi or something
4th Aug 2008 10:52 pm
DG Site Moderator
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DVLA chap wrote:
Foreign vehicles brought temporarily into the country by a person resident outside the UK for their own use, are permitted to circulate in the country for a period of 6 months in any 12 month period provided they are able to satisfy the authorities that the vehicle is licensed and registered in the country of normal residence and they are resident outside the UK. The Motor Vehicles ( International Circulation) Order 1975, as amended, provides temporary exemption for vehicles which comply with the provisions of Council Directive 83/182, from licensing and registration requirements during this period.
Normal residence means the place where a person usually lives for at least 185 days in each calendar year. Drivers may be asked to produce proof of their place of residence to the authorities of the country the vehicle is being used in.
If at any time a vehicle being used here on foreign plates is stopped by the police, it is the responsibility of the keeper to demonstrate that s/he is eligible to use the vehicle here without registering and licensing it.
Should you require an extension of the 6 month period allowed, you must immediately contact your nearest HM Revenue and Customs Advice Centre giving a reason as to why you wish the vehicle to stay in Britain. It will depend on HM Revenue & Customs whether or not you will have to register the vehicle under the British registration and licensing system. If an extension to the 6 month period is not allowed, you will be issued with a HM Revenue & Customs status certificate (C&E386/388).
On receipt of this certificate, you should apply immediately to register and licence the vehicle at your nearest DVLA Local Office.
Details of Local Offices can be found on our website listed below.
If you are resident in the UK then the following advice will be helpful.
I should firstly mention that DVLA Swansea can only answer general enquiries regarding vehicles used/registered abroad prior to registration with the DVLA . Specific enquiries regarding the procedures or documentation required must be directed to the DVLA Local Office where the application will be made.
You should apply to license and register the vehicle at your nearest DVLA Local Office, as soon as possible after arrival in the UK. A list of Local Office addresses may be found on our website as listed below, or in booklet V100 available at any licence issuing Post Office®. The vehicle must be in this country and available for inspection before you make the application. The only circumstances, in which you can drive the vehicle, are to and from a pre-arranged SVA/MOT test and to and from a garage for remedial work following failure to pass the test. Thereafter the vehicle should be kept off the road until the licensing and registration formalities have been completed. NB. UK law requires a vehicle to be licensed and registered for road use. To avoid difficulties, importers are advised to transport rather than drive their vehicles from the port of entry to home or first destination.
Please note applications will not be dealt with over the counter. Applications received outside a Local Office catchment area will be accepted and forwarded to the Local Office nearest the applicant’s home address for processing. Provided that the documentation is lodged with the Local Office in this way and the registration requirements have been complied with, the application will normally be dealt with by return of post.
From 1 January 2004 keepers who first license and register their vehicle(s) using application forms V55/4 or V55/5 will have to produce proof of name and address. A new information leaflet INF148 'Licensing and Registering Your Vehicle Using a V55/4 or a V55/5' has been produced giving details of the identity documents required. If you fail to read this information before submitting your application it may cause a delay in your application being processed.
The following documents will need to be submitted to the Local Office:
Completed application form V55/4 or if appropriate V55/5:
Form V55/4 is for "brand new" vehicles
Form V55/5 is for "used" vehicles
Appropriate Identity Documentation confirming your name and address
A £50 registration fee (if applicable)
The required fee for the licence
British insurance certificate
The appropriate Revenue & Customs form (see fact sheet 1)
Foreign registration document and any other papers you have relating to the vehicle
A current British MOT test certificate for:
Cars, motorcycles, motor caravans and Light Good Vehicles if more than 3 years old
Passenger carrying vehicles with more than 8 seats and taxis (excluding private hire cars) if more than 1 year old
Evidence of type approval (see fact sheet 2)
A brand new vehicle can be driven to GB and registered as new provided the vehicle is registered quickly after collection, this is taken as 14 days, has reasonable delivery mileage and it has not been previously "permanently" registered.
On receipt of a completed application the Local Office will allocate a registration mark appropriate to the vehicle's date of first use abroad and issue a vehicle excise licence. The papers will be forwarded to DVLA Swansea and you will receive a registration certificate for the vehicle within 6 weeks.
FACT SHEET 1
REVENUE & CUSTOMS DOCUMENTATION
WHAT CUSTOMS FORM DO I NEED?
C&E 386 This form is issued by Revenue & Customs for a vehicle of any age personally imported from outside the European Union (EU).
C&E 388 This form is issued by Revenue & Customs for a Customs restricted vehicle of any age personally imported from outside the EU.
C&E 389 This is a self-declaration form which should be used by VAT registered traders for commercial imports from outside the EU.
BFG 414 This form is issued to all Customs relieved vehicles, irrespective of age, which have been personally acquired within the EU by British Forces Germany personnel.
VAT 414 This self-declaration form (available at Local Offices) should only be used in the following circumstances:
a) For NMT vehicles acquired commercially within the EU by VAT registered traders.
b) For vehicles not classed as NMTs (ie. over 6 months old and having travelled more than 6,000 kms) which have been acquired from within the EU.
VAT 415 This self-declaration form (available at Local Offices) should be completed by customers when they have personally acquired a New Means of Transport (NMT) from within the EU. Following licensing and registration the form will be forwarded to Revenue & Customs.
Please note that a VAT 415 cannot be used for vehicles imported from outside the EU (eg. Japan or the USA – even if the vehicle has been driven to the UK via an EU country).
NB: New Means of Transport (NMT) vehicles are defined by Revenue & Customs as originating from within the EU and are either less than 6 months old or have travelled less than 6,000 kms.
FACT SHEET 2
TYPE APPROVAL
Most cars and light goods vehicles manufactured up to 10 years old need to produce evidence of type approval.
For vehicles brought in from the European Union this will take the form of an ECWVTA (Certificate of Conformity (CoC). Copies can be obtained from the manufacturer – a charge is usually made for this.
If you have been unable to obtain a Certificate of Conformity for a vehicle previously registered in another Member State prior to import it might be acceptable in the UK under the mutual recognition procedure. Further advice on this can be obtained from the Vehicle Certificate Agency – Telephone 0117 952 4125.
Vehicles imported from a non-European country will need to be submitted for an SVA inspection. Until 31 July 2001, one level of test applied to all vehicles. But from 1 August 2001 a more stringent test has been introduced. Enhanced SVA (ESVA). The Basic SVA will be retained only for the following main categories of imported vehicle.
"personally imported" vehicle as defined below
any left hand drive vehicle
From 17 June 2003, motorcycles must either have Type Approval, Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval or Mutual Recognition. Without such approval or exemption, such motorcycles cannot be registered in GB.
WHAT IS A PERSONAL IMPORT
As from 1 February 2001 you are a personal importer only
if the vehicle has been imported by a person entering the United Kingdom;
that person had, at the time the vehicle was imported, been normally resident in a country other than the United Kingdom for a continuous period of at least 12 months;
that person intends to become normally resident in the United Kingdom;
the vehicle has been in the possession of that person and used by him in the country where he has been normally resident for a period of at least 6 months before its importation; and
the vehicle is intended for his personal or household use in the United Kingdom. Establishing the criteria of the new "Personal Import" criteria will be the responsibility of the Vehicle Inspectorate.
Vehicles over 10 years old are exempt from type approval and from SVA.
NB: Vehicles over 3 years old are also required to pass an MOT (Passenger Carrying Vehicles with more than 8 seats and taxis – excluding private hire cars – if more than 1 year old).
If you would like me to send you an information pack with the relevant forms included, please provide me with your full postal address.
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