simonsi
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Anyone already investigated changing the anti-roll bars on the D3 and if so to what?
We also have an RRS on the drive but it has the Dynamic Response fitted, is there a non-DR RRS anti-roll bar setup that could be transplanted to the D3  Cheers
Simon
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 20th Jan 2008 11:48 pm |
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AndrewS
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Why change them In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 20th Jan 2008 11:55 pm |
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simon
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My bus holds the road plenty good.
If I wanted a sports car / to drive like a loon round corners - I wouldn't buy a D3 and then spend thousands making it something its not 
You can buy a pepper pig if you wanted handling beyond what the D3 accomplishes incredibly well.
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| 20th Jan 2008 11:58 pm |
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simonsi
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Unnecessary quote removed
I don´t believe there is any other 7-seater that does what the D3 does.
Ideally I´d like a D3, 7 seat body only with RRS suspension.
Is that too much to ask 
I take it you´ll be adding similar comments to the posts regarding altering the D3 ride height etc etc? Horses for courses and live and let live eh? Cheers
Simon
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:17 am |
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AndrewS
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simonsi wrote:
I take it you´ll be adding similar comments to the posts regarding altering the D3 ride height
I think you will find that most of us did In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:20 am |
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simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
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AndrewS wrote:Why change them
Firstly I need to find out if there is anything to change them to....but I had adjustable Koni´s on my D2 and the improvement to the on-road ride and handling was quite considerable and noticeable to anyone in it, in comparison the D3 rolls more, I´d like to tame it if I can (and upping the roll stiffness should compromise ride too much although it will restrict articulation but off-road isn´t my concern).
Oh and I like the engineering challenge, using std components means it shouldn´t cost too much either... Cheers
Simon
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:21 am |
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simonsi
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AndrewS wrote:simonsi wrote:
I take it you´ll be adding similar comments to the posts regarding altering the D3 ride height
I think you will find that most of us did
...and the Aussies didn´t take any notice right  at least changing the A/R bars doesn´t alter the cv geometry etc etc Cheers
Simon
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:24 am |
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captain_sugar
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I thought the suspension of the RRS is exactly the same as the one of the D3.
I thought the main differences between a D3 and a RRS are:
- the RRS is much more expensive because it "is" a range rover...
- the RRS has much smaller space for the people inside
- the RRS has much smaller trunk space
- RRS drivers don't greet eachother
Am I wrong?
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:26 am |
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simon
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RRS also has an 'active' system to help keep it on the road when being chased by pepper piggy.
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:32 am |
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simon
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So buy an Q7 or Volvo XC90 if off road is not your thing.
The D3 is designed to do many things and many things very well. No compromise for those that like to venture away from schools and shopping malls.
I just (personally) cant see the point of trying to marry the system the RRS SC uses with a D3 is all. And how are you going to get the all the electronic to talk to each other - especially the sensors that are part of the DSC system ?
But hey, each to their own.
Oh, and the D3 is in a different league to the old D2 - that was a 20 year old chassis.
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:37 am |
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simonsi
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Unnecessary quote removed
No thanks, don't like either, so once again if I don't take a D3 off-road no mods allowed or required eh? In fact I'm not allowed to have one and must have a Q7 or XC90 - have you SEEN the rear seats in the Q7???
The whole point was to ask if there is a NON-Dynamic Response anti-roll setup on some RRS models that could be transplanted, you know, anti-roll bars that don't have electronics...hence low cost (if the brackets etc are similar), so no sensors to talk to anything.
I said "is there a non-DR RRS anti-roll bar setup that could be transplanted to the D3" in the original post, did you read that bit??? As far as I know not all RRS have the active DR system, so tthose without it must have something else no???
I guess you haven't any useful info but why these comments is beyond me, sorry I asked.... Cheers
Simon
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| 21st Jan 2008 8:05 am |
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simonsi
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captain_sugar wrote:I thought the suspension of the RRS is exactly the same as the one of the D3.
I thought the main differences between a D3 and a RRS are:
- the RRS is much more expensive because it "is" a range rover...
- the RRS has much smaller space for the people inside
- the RRS has much smaller trunk space
- RRS drivers don't greet eachother
Am I wrong?
Geometry is AFAIK the same but there are considerable differences in the DR system and possibly other areas where a stiffer setup is the end result. I'd just be interested to know if there are some specific components that could be fitted to the D3.
Seems like the answer is no-one knows and the question isn't liked in some areas  Cheers
Simon
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| 21st Jan 2008 8:07 am |
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PierreJ
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First
simonsi wrote:I guess you haven't any useful info but why these comments is beyond me, sorry I asked....
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simonsi wrote:Seems like the answer is no-one knows and the question isn't liked in some areas
Don't be so sensitive. 
It sounds like a dialogue between a married couple.  Why is the fear of long words called hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?
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| 21st Jan 2008 9:35 am |
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CFB
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Maybe worth a post on the RRS site? ISTR there are some models that don't have the dynamic suspension thingy, guess no-one on here would know.
Anyway, good luck with the investigation, I am sure some folks on here would be interested. You just gotta get used to getting your leg pulled, it's a peril of the forum  2020 BMW X1 18d XDrive X-Line Auto
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| 21st Jan 2008 10:23 am |
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AndrewS
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And there is me thinking this was a forum for 'discussion'
Tell you what ask your dealer  In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 21st Jan 2008 10:45 am |
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