CFB
Member Since: 02 Dec 2005
Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Discussion is good 
Banter is great 
Ripping peoples ideas apart = not so good. 2020 BMW X1 18d XDrive X-Line Auto
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 21st Jan 2008 10:51 am |
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ianv
Member Since: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Bungendore, New South Wales
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Hi All,
At first I thought my D3 was a bit soft as well, then I realised a couple of things,
1. I was not prepared to sacrifice any off road suspension articluation for the sake of more sway bar.
2. Being an Aussie I pushed it just a bit harder and discovered that that is exactly what's needed to get some more "Active" in the active suspension. Just a little faster into the corners and a little quicker on the turn in movement at the wheel and you will be surprised how flat the D3 stay under pressure. I guess most of you already know this but it is a leap of faith. TDV6
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| 21st Jan 2008 10:55 am |
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PierreJ
Member Since: 22 Aug 2007
Location: Perth, W.A.
Posts: 448
 
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ianv wrote:Just a little faster into the corners and a little quicker on the turn in movement at the wheel and you will be surprised how flat the D3 stay under pressure. I guess most of you already know this but it is a leap of faith.
I cannot agree more. 
Simonsi however has the right idea, and if you look at his signature, likes the D3, but also needs different bits from a RRS. Personally I can see the benefit of Brembo's.
NOTE: I am not saying the D3 does not have great brakes, but any improvements on brakes is good, even when you don't always need it. It's like owning a gun, rather have it, and not need it, than need it and not have it.  Why is the fear of long words called hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?
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| 21st Jan 2008 11:11 am |
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simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Auckland
Posts: 1264
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cotefarmboy wrote:Maybe worth a post on the RRS site?
Maybe, just thought the numbers of RRS owners who look underneath would be less - seems more appetite for mods here
Trying not to be over-sensitive but a hugely long thread about don't do it and buy a Q7 instead isn't what I was trying to achieve... Cheers
Simon
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| 21st Jan 2008 11:44 am |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
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cotefarmboy wrote:Ripping peoples ideas apart = not so good.
Who's ripping peoples ideas apart 
I just think its plain silly and unnecessary to do on the D3.
Other opinions may vary of course, but thats what this place is about.
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:22 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
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simonsi wrote:Trying not to be over-sensitive but a hugely long thread about don't do it and buy a Q7 instead isn't what I was trying to achieve...
I do apologise for swearing at you.
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:24 pm |
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freebie2disco
Member Since: 01 Jan 2007
Location: wantage
Posts: 334
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simonsi wrote:cotefarmboy wrote:Maybe worth a post on the RRS site?
Maybe, just thought the numbers of RRS owners who look underneath would be less - seems more appetite for mods here
Trying not to be over-sensitive but a hugely long thread about don't do it and buy a Q7 instead isn't what I was trying to achieve...
I've now stopped asking questions on the forum because the sarcastic comments from some of the "elite" on the forum just  me off. Your not the first and wont be the last to get unhelpful comments. I am sure its just to get their post count up and as they have nothing useful to add just post their own blinkered view of the world. Just because they know something in one area they then think they can pontificate on everything and are above been civil. Hope you get a useful reply. I fully expect to get told loudly by the friends of the "elite" how helpful they all are and how the forum would be poorer without them and how can I be so sensitive. etc etc etc.
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:33 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
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FFS
I'll never post a personal opinion here again then.
I assume no one else will either so this place can just be a technical nerd fest.
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:43 pm |
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simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Auckland
Posts: 1264
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Quote:I do apologise for swearing at you.
 Cheers
Simon
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| 21st Jan 2008 12:57 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
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simonsi wrote:Quote:I do apologise for swearing at you.
Sorry but I am now unable to comment in case it offends anyone. I have nothing technical to say about those laughing emoticons.
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| 21st Jan 2008 1:02 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 6019
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The handling issue could be down to worn bushes, they are well known for it. I can feel the wear on my D3 and it is going in on Monday to have the anti roll bar bushes and ball joints replaced under warranty. I think this will stiffen up the handling a bit.
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| 21st Jan 2008 1:04 pm |
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simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Auckland
Posts: 1264
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Thanks I'll get them checked, must admit I'm not sure if I have a particular issue with my car or they are all like that, certainly can't detect any bush rumble noise and the car is nearly silent (esp compared to a D2) at speed to had assumed it was like it was supposed to be....thanks for the advice Cheers
Simon
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| 21st Jan 2008 1:08 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 6019
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You can't really hear anything on the anti roll bar bushes, but if you get a slight knock sometime when you hit potholes etc, then it is likely the ball joints.
I can really feel a difference on mine from when I first got it to now. Hopefully on Monday it will back with all new bits with stiffer handling
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| 21st Jan 2008 1:20 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
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Worn anti roll bar stirrups will cause a knocking noise.
So will steering racks components and as you say ball joints.
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| 21st Jan 2008 1:53 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23327
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Nothing to do with your initial query on suspension, but what size wheels do you have fitted to your D3?
I notice a big difference in body roll when I drive D3's fitted with 17" & 18" wheels, in comparison to my HSE with 19" wheels.
The 19"s with Pirelli's are a good combo. on the road, better than you'd imagine they could be off-road as well.
I've been "moding" vehicles to suit my needs for years, the D3 is the only vehicle in the past 15 years that I've done almost nothing to. So far just needed to sort the lack of performance out by having a re-map & replacing the air filter. Got a set of 19"s with MTR's fitted as well, for off-road fun.
It does what I want it to do very well, so I've not bothered to doing anything else. But I'd like to fit Brembo's, as the standard brakes are only just able to cope with the extra performance. Plus I've been used to AP Racing brakes & after those all "normal" brakes seem inadequate!
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| 21st Jan 2008 2:28 pm |
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