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galwaygreen
 


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United Kingdom 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Graphite LE Auto Loire BlueDiscovery 4

this looks like its going in the right direction..well done mickey,,always thought you was a star
  
Post #13217717th Aug 2014 8:27 pm
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Barn1e
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

Before I had mine replaced I was running with 4 working and despite a cold winter, it started fine. Made me wonder if replacing the front four which seem more accessible is sufficient.
 2005, TDV6 S, Auto, 190k miles, owned from new, V8 Brake Upgrade, Nancom Evo, RLD protector, BAS EGR blanking & Remap, separate ATF cooler, changing all the fluids ahead of time.  
Post #13217777th Aug 2014 8:29 pm
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alex_pescaru
 


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Always remove the glow plugs with a warm/hot engine and you'll never have any problems with them.
Meaning they will come out very easy and will not break.
  
Post #13217907th Aug 2014 8:48 pm
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

I have to disagree Alex. Tried this method with 2 TDV6s and didn't work on either

Even tried have it running with the bare minimum of Censored in the way, to ensure everything was hot. Made no difference with either.

With the 2nd, I even tried driving it hard, tried when everything Was cooking hot, when it was cooling, tried freeze spray, vibrating impact gun. Still would have snapped.
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Post #13217977th Aug 2014 8:54 pm
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geoff.
 


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i have to agree with mikey on this one Thumbs Up alex where you coming from Whistle

ps maybe we should send them all to alex Thumbs Up
 

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Robbie
 


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Rather than threads or dissimilar metals being the issue it appears to be a build-up of carbon that enlarges the tip which prevents removal. The weak construction does the rest.
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BrianT
 


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Scotland 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Landmark LE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

Is there not a treatment for de-carbonizing(or what ever the big word is) beforehand then trying to remove?

I only ask as I think mine are on there way out(forgot to mention it the other day Mikey Whistle )

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Post #13218067th Aug 2014 9:09 pm
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grahamk
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Arif wrote:
Mikey I've packed my bags let me know when you're free to do the work and I'll book my ticket!.............on a serious note Mikey would you do the work for me if so pm me a quote and available dates please.


Simples...drive up...drop off, ticket back down to Engerland from Edinburgh or Glasgow for a few quid and a flight back up when its done, or a week in Sunny Scotland Smile
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Post #13218197th Aug 2014 9:32 pm
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

BrianT wrote:
Is there not a treatment for de-carbonizing(or what ever the big word is) beforehand then trying to remove?

I only ask as I think mine are on there way out(forgot to mention it the other day Mikey Whistle )

BrianT Thumbs Up



Was thinking what a Terraclean would do, before attempting glow plug removal...
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Post #13218217th Aug 2014 9:34 pm
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grahamk
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Has anyone tried removing the plugs after a terraclean yet? would be good to know
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Post #13218257th Aug 2014 9:37 pm
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

Alan was going to let me try them on his. Not going ahead with it now.

I know when my engine arrived,all 6 plugs were working, but only 3 could be removed.
Very tempted to have my own Terraclean done, and try it on my own engine. Would have to be done fairly soon after having the clean done...
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Post #13218287th Aug 2014 9:40 pm
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Iguana
 


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Only about £80ish for a terraclean, so well worth giving it a go and see if it helps
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alex_pescaru
 


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geoff. wrote:
i have to agree with mikey on this one Thumbs Up alex where you coming from Whistle

From a world that was forced to solve things without much help...
I've seen during time, on one of my friend's garage, that the chance of removing successfully the glow plugs "on hot" is much greater than "on cold".
There are many things that the books and experience said that must be removed "on hot".
It's clear from the words of Mikey that he also thought of this and he had a correct judgment.

geoff. wrote:
ps maybe we should send them all to alex Thumbs Up

Keep them coming, keep them coming ! Laughing Laughing Laughing
 

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grahamk
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

deffo worth a shot I reckon. even if it makes it run cleaner and gives better fuel economy its worth it
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Robbie
 


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United Kingdom 2013 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Baltic BlueDiscovery 4

Alex,

I don't doubt that doing it hot is the correct way and most service manuals state this as a requirement. For larger gauge glow plugs this does work and whilst I am sure it can only help with the fine plugs fitted to this engine they are just not strong enough to be reliably removed.

So far the best way appears to be the low power vibrating tools, time and patience. DIY can prove to be better as we tend to have the patience and mortal fear of breaking them so spend hours easing them out. Terraclean sounds interesting and anecdotally those running on 2sO have better luck, presumably for the same reason.
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