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I agree that it is a dangerous path to tread..BUT the hunting fraternity have worked out a reasonably succesful strategy that sticks two fingers up to the anti's and legislation passed against them. We must find a way to do the same.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
6th Jul 2006 4:22 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Very Annoyed wrote:
Agree Slimer - promise I won't smash up a Prius tonight!
VA U can smash up the Priusii (pl for Prius I think), my sister has one. Please leave the Toyota Aygos alone, just bought the Missus one as she is going back to Uni to get a third degree & doesn't think she will be able to park. Costs for Aygo will be offset by 61mpg + cheaper tyres, plus what is saved from bad parking damage. Even she can park it!
6th Jul 2006 5:04 pm
DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: London
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Slimer wrote:
I think it's time we seriously thought about significant but legal response of some sort that will show that we're fed up with all the rubbish being said and show what the facts are
I cannot understand why Land Rover sit by and let all of these false 'facts' get air-time. Why don't they come forward and say that the vast majority of their cars are diesel and do 25 mpg+? Its only the RRS that lets them down....
Being fairly new to off-roading, is there an all-encompassing group/club that we should look to to support our cause (a Countryside Alliance type organisation)?Disco 5 HSE Lux
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6th Jul 2006 5:36 pm
DG Site Moderator
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But then again no other 4x4 manufacturers are putting their heads above the parapet either. I think they are keeping stum while working on the efficiency issues... the advent of the diesel v8 will silence some of the critics in respect of consumption. Some say this will be the death of the big petrol engines , others say they'll be back in 10 years 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
Being fairly new to off-roading, is there an all-encompassing group/club that we should look to to support our cause (a Countryside Alliance type organisation)?
How about the SAS?
6th Jul 2006 5:47 pm
DiscoStu
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dickgriff wrote:
... the advent of the diesel v8 will silence some of the critics in respect of consumption. Some say this will be the death of the big petrol engines , others say they'll be back in 10 years
I think the CA only got going when there was a definite threat of a ban. I don't think we are at that stage yet and, at the moment, a majority of 4x4 owners are probably pretty complacent about the whole thing.
It would be great to put a fund together to get someone like that journo (sorry, forgotten his name!) to speak out for us when necessary. But then we do have the likes of Clarkson etc. implicitly on our side to do just that...
6th Jul 2006 5:57 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Jeremy Clarkson???
PS oops just read the rest of the post.
6th Jul 2006 6:37 pm
SN
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qzdcg8 wrote:
I may have just been extremely silly - I have emailed [email protected] (from my personal email) and passed them the link.
I have made no mention of the fact I am D3 owner working in Central London...
...I'll keep you posted!
Did someone say they weren't very communicative?
I got a reply... though not much of one:
Anti 4x4 d**k brain wrote:
From: "Alliance Against Urban 4x4s" <stopurban4x4s>
Date: 2006/07/06 Thu PM 04:17:56 BST
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Why 4x4's are targetted...
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it's an old article. I already sent my comments to the editor ages ago. He's
got it wrong. It's a conscience thing.
best
justifies him self well, doesn't he....
Any (productive) suggestions as to how I reply?Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
7th Jul 2006 11:09 am
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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yer, ask him which the worst greenhouse gas is - and how they propose to reduce it ....
7th Jul 2006 11:11 am
davesimmons
Member Since: 11 Feb 2006
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Yeah get his address
7th Jul 2006 11:17 am
DG Site Moderator
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qzdcg8 wrote:
Any (productive) suggestions as to how I reply?
Tell him to come along to the next South East meet.....where we can 'enlighten' him on the errors of his thought processes.
While he's there , we can shove the rough end of a pineapple up his ar$e 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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7th Jul 2006 11:19 am
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
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Why not invite Brendan O’Neill to pop along and write an article about the forum and the concerns we have as normal law abiding citizens ?
7th Jul 2006 11:23 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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10forcash wrote:
yer, ask him which the worst greenhouse gas is - and how they propose to reduce it ....
10 worst greenhouse gas is............ WATER VAPOUR!
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