Member Since: 24 Aug 2010
Location: Glasgow
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DG wrote:
dgh1000 wrote:
The car didn't say stop
Sorry .....all personal circumstances aside ....should you be in possesion of a driving licence ?
Given I've had twenty years of accident free motoring driving about 350000 miles I'd say When my 3 year isn't in hospital Im safe enough. Under normal circumstances I don't take risks and this time thought that stopping by the side of a snow filled motorway waiting to get hit by an artic was more dangerous than continuing 1/2 mile to the exit. In hindsight I know this was the wrong descision. The worse drivers are the ones that don't think they make mistakes.
I think you should rethink your title of moderator you aren't really very moderate.
1st Dec 2010 11:53 am
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I'm here to moderate you ...not the other way around .....I'm sure though that there are many people on here that would offer an appropriate alternative title for me.
It was just an observation TBH.. harsh in some eyes maybe...I guess what I'm trying to say in a rather direct way is that sometimes you just have to use human senses rather than relying on a machine to tell you when to do something. No hard feelings 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
1st Dec 2010 12:19 pm
mwestcrew
Member Since: 24 May 2005
Location: Warwickshire
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Have to say that I am with DG on this one. If I got a message of any sort regarding suspension, the first thing I would do is stop and at very least have a walk round the car to see if anything was obvious. If it wasn't I would then call LRA for advice and a Technicians Assistance.
The ONE thing I would NOT do EVER is try driving at 30mph on a motorway. This has a huge potential for causing an accident.
IMHO motorways should have a minimum speed limit as well as a maximum. I have seen many near miss incidents caused by some half-wit bimbling along at 45.2011 D4 Landmark, Mini Cooper SD Clubman, Range Rover Vogue SE
1st Dec 2010 5:30 pm
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Location: UK
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On a motorway with snow, 30mph is not a unreasonable speed. The police would much rather you left the motorway if possible then get out on the hard shoulder and start looking at your car, especially with only 1/2 a mile to go
The hard shoulder is a dangerous place for both the people on it and cars on the motorway.
I once got two flats on the motorway and the police suggested I drive off the motorway using the hard shoulder as I was within 3/4 miles of a junction as it would be much safer. So I did and into the motorway services.
1st Dec 2010 5:36 pm
Popelka
Member Since: 31 May 2008
Location: Praha (Prague)
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dgh1000 wrote:
I'd say When my 3 year isn't in hospital Im safe enough.
I'm sorry for your son's illness/hospital time, however I'm asking myself if your a doctor with very special skills that you just HAD TO GET THERE INSTANTLY; would it have done your son any good if you was involved in any sort of accident for the sack the a minute or two on the hard shoulder just to visually check your car condition.
dont get me wrong I too have been in a hospital rush for family reasons, but I'm also aware of the need to complete my drive safely.(better to be by the bedside holding hands than in the next bed waiting for recovery)
I've been in a car driven by somebody that ignored the warning signs of a deflated tyre and we(5 adults) nearly had an accident from lack of control.(its NOT NICE feeling)
hope all is well with YOU and YOUR SON and I think I like DG even more now for spelling out a possible driver error in a very clear way.... Experience is a difficult teacher, because she gives the test first and then the lesson afterwards!!!!
2nd Dec 2010 12:19 pm
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Popelka wrote:
and I think I like DG even more now ...
Oh er missis!! Where's the Group Hug emoticon??
2nd Dec 2010 1:00 pm
steveraspberry
Member Since: 18 Sep 2011
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mwestcrew wrote:
IMHO motorways should have a minimum speed limit as well as a maximum. I have seen many near miss incidents caused by some half-wit bimbling along at 45.
Erm..... they do! It's 30mph. Sorry
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23rd Sep 2011 3:40 pm
GraemeS
Member Since: 17 Mar 2008
Location: NSW
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jojim65 wrote:
As a matter of interest, if you do get a total loss of tyre pressure does the suspension try to maintain the height of the other 3 tyres or simply drop to the height of the punctured tyre.
I would have thought that if it keeps the car level you might not even know you had a puncture at speed until you heard the tyre destroying itself....
The vehicle does seem to detect a very soft or flat tyre as something wrong, perhaps because 1 wheel is continuously at an odd height whilst the other wheels are at a steady height. On uneven ground the wheels are moving up and down but have an average height over time (eg 5 seconds) but a flat tyre makes that corner's suspension at a higher average height than the other corners so something has gone wrong.
I would have kept driving if it was less dangerous to do so than stop.Home of LLAMS, for LRs and Jeep GCs
23rd Sep 2011 8:11 pm
Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
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Hi Graeme,
I think that the DSC detects the difference in rolling diameter between the NS & OS wheels as being an unstable condition. It gets confused and shuts down.
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23rd Sep 2011 11:45 pm
GraemeS
Member Since: 17 Mar 2008
Location: NSW
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If the rolling diameter was detected as being different it should be reported as a brake system fault - perhaps a steering angle sensor fault due to wheels rotating at different speeds yet not turning a corner. However I've come to the conclusion that wheel speed does not change significantly with a flat or soft tyre on a hard surface. The suspension ecu does plausibility checks on height sensor activity so it could easily detect that something was amiss, but wouldn't know for sure that a soft tyre that was the cause. Afterall, it was a suspension fault message that occurred.Home of LLAMS, for LRs and Jeep GCs
24th Sep 2011 2:50 am
caverD3
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Nice way to treat a new guy on the forum
He followed what it said. It is difficult to tell if you have slightly flat tyre with EAS unless you turn the DSC won't come on. Shouldn't cause it to drop to the bump stops though.
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.....I'm sure though that there are many people on here that would offer an appropriate alternative title for me. 
. Just confirming that your thoughts are actually correct and the law ! 
