Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
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2021 Disco
Doesn’t look like much of a change externally. More likely gaining the new pivi pro software and mild hybrid, possibly PHEV option.
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25th May 2020 8:13 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13605
That's the best looking D5 I've seen in a while. They should sell that paint scheme, perhaps as part of a Stealth pack... Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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25th May 2020 8:25 pm
RAW
Member Since: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Devon
Posts: 936
Don’t think there is a lot changing, heard they have done away with the pop up gear selector and will be like the new DefenderMY18 RRS Autobiography Fuji White
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25th May 2020 9:22 pm
nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
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They’ve still not managed to centralise the number plate I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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25th May 2020 9:25 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
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Gerry would kill himself before admitting the number plate is incorrectly positioned. He was blaming the dealers back when it was launched, remember?Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
I might be in the market if a PHEV or EV version was available and:-
They sort out the rear end, in particular :-
Widen so that a standard pallet can be loaded
Split the tailgate as in the earlier Discos
and, of less importance, but while you are at it - centralise the numberplate
I guess no chance of this, so no sale.
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1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
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none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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26th Jun 2020 8:43 am
RRSTDV8
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How many pallets do you shift, out of interest? Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
26th Jun 2020 8:48 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73131
nigethecat wrote:
They’ve still not managed to centralise the number plate
It is centralised, it’s just the rest of the car that’s not.
How many pallets do I shift? Not a large number but when I do they are important including:-
Pallet load of ancient bricks collected from Somerset, loaded with fork lift.
MGA Engine from home (Hampshire) to Derbyshire, and a second trip to collect
Gearbox, bellhousing etc.. home from Bristol
Full load of champagne from France to UK for a friend's daughter's wedding, loaded & unloaded with fork lift.
I could hire or buy a trailer, but they are not so secure, and would have been a pain on the last pick-up as it was preceded by a touring holiday in France.
A standard pallet is IIRC 1200x1000mm so I would need a trailer with a bed quite a lot larger, hard-top, spare wheel etc.. When last I priced it up c. £1k. I'm also unsure how one lifts a laden pallet into & out of a trailer.
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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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26th Jun 2020 9:26 am
al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10361
have you measured or got the tailgate opening measurements as a comparrison to the D4 as I think its wider than the D4, and the reason I say this is, that our caravan awing pole set in its bag was a really tight squeeze to put in the back of the D4 side to side, but goes into the D5 with a little (OK not much) space when put across the boot (in both cases at the very back, closest to the tailgate).
Its the height opening I miss, as on the D4 I have had a washing machine and a dishwasher upright in the back, but the D5 opening is just a fraction too low to allow this.
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26th Jun 2020 10:19 am
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
Posts: 2821
I like the offset number plate.
About the only thing I do like about it though, partly for the same reasons as NJSS.
I need to carry 'stuff'.
But am slowly coming to the conclusion that when I need to change my D4 I'll only have a choice of a D5 or the new Defender, and I think a used D5 will be much better value for money in 2yrs time than a used Defender.
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26th Jun 2020 10:43 am
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
Why dismiss the FFRR?
It’s not as versatile or practical as the D3/4 but if you don’t need the 7 seats, it’s a alternative to the D5.
Mine gets used the same as my Disco’s did.
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26th Jun 2020 10:52 am
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
Posts: 2821
Unfortunately the only reason, and I genuinely mean this, is that the rear seats in the FFRR don't fold completely flat.
Actually, I would have brought one instead of my D4 if not for the back seats.
I test drove a couple of really nice 2-3yr old TDV8s and was all set to go until I tried to put the rear seats flat in the last one I test drove.
I was very dissappointed.
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26th Jun 2020 10:58 am
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 15272
nigethecat wrote:
They’ve still not managed to centralise the number plate
You never know, they may well have centralised it, but mocked it up to look like the current offset version. ...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
< ‘tis but a mere scratch …….. it’ll polish out.
26th Jun 2020 11:06 am
Brian_DL13
Member Since: 25 Aug 2013
Location: Teesdale
Posts: 1418
LT wrote:
Why dismiss the FFRR?
It’s not as versatile or practical as the D3/4 but if you don’t need the 7 seats, it’s a alternative to the D5.
Mine gets used the same as my Disco’s did.
Proper tailgate
Repair bills x 2 ?
Not that it's any more or less reliable, but cost of parts and labour is much more for an RR than for a LR.
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