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goodo
Member Since: 04 Dec 2018
Location: Cheltenham
Posts: 107
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Morning,
The battery on our 2010 D4 (non stop-start) is past its best. We use the car for lots of short journeys which probably hasn't helped with its demise. I'm going to pop it on the battery charger to see if I can give it a bit more life, but I was wondering about the replacement
You can get these AGM Absorbent Glass Matt batteries which are for start stop vehicles, and which have a bit more juice in them. Has anyone fitted these to a non stop-start car and have they found it worthwhile - longer life, better if you use the car for shorter journeys etc.
I have found tayna.co.uk seems a good place to go.
Yuasa Silver lead acid battery YBX5019 - £89.99 5 yr guarantee
Yuasa EFB technology (?) YBX7019 - £119.99 4 year guarantee
Yuasa AGM YBX9019 - £156.41 - 4 year guarantee
I like to use the FBH to pre warm the car in the mornings and if the car isn't run afterwards, all this does is discharge the battery so I'm thinking the higher CCA and Ah the better.
thoughts?
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 19th Nov 2020 12:10 pm |
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azurar01
Member Since: 24 Feb 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 509
 
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Land Rover replaced my (MY2011 non Stop-Start) battery with an AGM battery. It lasted about 7-8 years and worked fine. Only thing to remember is if you get an AGM battery, use the AGM charging setting on your battery charger. D4 SDV6 HSE 11MY - Gone
D3 TDV6 HSE 08MY - Gone
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| 19th Nov 2020 5:50 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14510
  
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I have Yuasa AGM D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 19th Nov 2020 7:02 pm |
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Duc750
Member Since: 07 Aug 2017
Location: northampton
Posts: 321
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Odyssey 1700T as the start battery in My D3 - largely because it lived in my d2 before and was too good to reside in that when the D3 came along
Needed a little modification to some of the casing ribs that support the carry handle but i doubt there's much it wouldn't start and it copes very well with infrequent use.
Odysseys and optimas do need an occasional charge with a proper High current charger once a year to get the best out of them though - to be fair I think that can probably be said for most AGM batteries though 05 D3 V8 HSE, LR Passion tree bars, wildbear compressor guard, LRP switch panel, ARB rear locker + compressor, Trigger 6 shooter electrical system
12 RRS SDV6 HSE (Hers) - Gone and replaced with an I Pace - I can tell you now EV is not the future yet
Metalian Camper trailer
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| 19th Nov 2020 7:15 pm |
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jmich
Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Mons
Posts: 21
 
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I also replaced my D4 2011 (no start stop) with an AGM one (Varta Silver Dynamic G14) last month. I choose the AGM because of its lower internal resistance which reduce the self discharge and improve lifetime... JM
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| 19th Nov 2020 8:29 pm |
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goodo
Member Since: 04 Dec 2018
Location: Cheltenham
Posts: 107
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Thanks everyone. It doesn't appear that there's much downside to an AGM, and the cost is only really 60% more than a wet battery. I'm going to charge up the one we have (Bosch labelled 2017 so not that old) and get it through the winter months, and we'll see where we are in the spring.
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| 20th Nov 2020 9:18 am |
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goodo
Member Since: 04 Dec 2018
Location: Cheltenham
Posts: 107
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jmich wrote:I also replaced my D4 2011 (no start stop) with an AGM one (Varta Silver Dynamic G14) last month. I choose the AGM because of its lower internal resistance which reduce the self discharge and improve lifetime...
Hi jmich, in my adolescent days in the late 90s I used to live in SHAPE, the NATO army base just outside Mons. I have fond memories of the area. Frites Mayo, Paprika chips and Frangipanes we enjoyed regularly.
We used to while away many days drinking Jupiler and playing darts with the locals in the bars around the camp. Fun times.
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| 20th Nov 2020 9:23 am |
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jmich
Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Mons
Posts: 21
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(And I had some english lessons in SHAPE those years !) JM
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| 20th Nov 2020 9:39 am |
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Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
Posts: 1200
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Go for an AGM.
I've just changed mine (2010 non stop/start) from a 'normal' lead acid to a Bosch S5A13 AGM.
We did some tests and what took 0.4 volts from the old battery, only took 0.1 from the new.
I got a good price as my son has an account with the company in question, but even without it, I think the initial extra cost will have been worth it 4 years down the road.
Dave 2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)
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| 20th Nov 2020 2:52 pm |
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M3bobby
Member Since: 21 May 2018
Location: Sleaford, LINCS.
Posts: 857
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The problem with the Silver lead acid batteries is that once they’ve dropped below a certain level, they can never be brought back. It may be new on the shelf but if it’s dropped below that level, it’s scrap before you fit it. I wouldn’t bother trying to save one by trying to charge it, it will just fail you again, and Sod’s law dictates it will be at the worst time. 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
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Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
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2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
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| 21st Nov 2020 9:23 am |
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