Member Since: 06 Jul 2012
Location: Beds/Bucks Border
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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars wrote:
Car Wow doing 5% off D5.
Off to have a look...
Edit: Entered that i was looking at a 3.0l Diesel SE...
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£649 (1.3%)MY2023 Discovery 5 R-Dynamic 3.0
MY2020 Discovery 5 Landmark 3.0 - SOLD
MY2005 Discovery 3 V8 4.4 HSE - SOLD
MY2019 Discovery 5 SE 3.0 - LR Replaced !
MY2005 Discovery 3 S 2.7 - SOLD
MY2016 Discovery 4 Graphite - SOLD
MY2015 Discovery 4 SE Tech - SOLD
11th Sep 2017 11:46 am
110CSW
Member Since: 19 Oct 2005
Location: Scotland
Posts: 796
DG wrote:
110CSW wrote:
Had an e-mail from Drive the Deal and they are doing 10% off DS and 4% off D5 so JLR cannot be worried despite our views. I suspect D5 volume expectations are lower than with D3/D4 as I said earlier due to the broadness of the range.
Thing is .....retail volumes are still very strong month on month across the range in general of which UK sales account for 18.7% ..JLR have a strategy and the D5 , warts and all, has moved position within the overall range and traditional markets are adjusting to that hence the lower sales v 2016 D4.
What is slower to change is our recognition of the strategy and acceptance with the D5 that the D3\4 it ain't ....to satisfy that market, various guises of the forthcoming Defender will take the place of what we consider to be the 4x4 gamechanger that was the original D3.
All IMO of course.
I don't have to argue with the shift but I think you explain it well.2014MY Discovery
11th Sep 2017 1:17 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
Tripe wrote:
adam wrote:
Some lower spec D4's were launched with the 2.7 single turbo engine, a few months later it was dropped.
The D3 launch specs were a right dogs dinner of different standard and options fit for a few months
That's what companies do...
I'm seeing more of them every day, back looks odd IMO but horses for courses - if I had a spare £70K knocking about I'd probably get one - but I want to retire in a few years so doesn't make man maths sense
if LR change the D5 product offering every 6 months, everyone can have limited run collectors editions
LR have always added bits and pieces during each model year change23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
11th Sep 2017 2:27 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73133
And they do like to take things off.
11th Sep 2017 2:49 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
Yup, they have known to chop bits off.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
11th Sep 2017 3:03 pm
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
DG wrote:
What is slower to change is our recognition of the strategy and acceptance with the D5 that the D3\4 it ain't ....to satisfy that market, various guises of the forthcoming Defender will take the place of what we consider to be the 4x4 gamechanger that was the original D3.
All IMO of course.
I think this is it in a nutshell and I hope you're right DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
11th Sep 2017 3:24 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
Yes, I hope that's the case. What's happening with the Defender replacement though?????2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
11th Sep 2017 3:42 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
I would assume it'll make an appearance for LRs 70th birthday23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
11th Sep 2017 4:28 pm
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
D5 is what it is, its a very good car for the money I think but it isn't a direct replacement for the D4 for all. LR cant start changing it drastically due to customer feedback but each model year will always have new bits mainly either for cost saving by simplifying parts inventory (it may be cheaper to up the spec of a lower model if it simplifies supply chain) or they will add new bits due to competition so the TFT dash could be to catchup up with the audi and volvos.
Where I think Land Rover do have a valuable opportunity to offer bigger changes and make more money is to offer SVO packages for the Discovery a bit like Autobiography for the Range Rover. A SVO Utility package for instance with manual split tailgate, manual folding seats and rubberised load space would be a great offering.MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
11th Sep 2017 4:43 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
18MY now available on online builder.
A couple of new colours, digital dash on HSE/Lux, £2k increase across the range. S/SE gains Incontrol touch Pro but fog lights now optional on SE
Also 2.0 Si4 comes with single speed transfer box only23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
12th Sep 2017 3:05 pm
Robse
Member Since: 10 Jun 2014
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 498
Yes they've gone up quite a lot. Even further out of my price range !!Velar MY18 D180 S Narvik
Discovery MY2015 3.0 SDV6 SE Corris - Gone
12th Sep 2017 4:25 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
I'm glad I bought when I did, the budget was stretched as it is. The new increase brings no beneficial updates IMO. The Pro system doesn't show traffic lights on the nav and doesn't do text readout like my current entry level system and that's all you get for your £2k. It's only a £1700 option at most on other models in the range.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
12th Sep 2017 5:18 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20855
RDR wrote:
D5 is what it is, its a very good car for the money
Member Since: 17 Jul 2017
Location: Either cashpoint or garage...
Posts: 293
So according to the dealer here (our one and only...) MY18 details not with them until this weekend so can't redo my offer till next week...Also looked surprised when I mentioned new engine and he said nope
And told to expect about a 1% price increase.
Will hopefully see the revised spec and offer in a few days MY2008 D3 - It got me hooked...gone
MY2012 D4 - It kept me hooked...gone
MY2007 D3 - Mid-Life crisis toy continues driving me to bankruptcy...
MY2018 "D5" Si6 - But is it a "true" LR...discuss...but now gone
Back in a D4 with a lot of extras....
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